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| Unlucky tonight. I was v proud of England tonight. They really matched them, toe to toe. I know that might sound stupid,cos the scoreline reflects a different one sided game.
For me, the game changed when Shenton got knocked out. It was 16-22. When he got carried off, England then conceded 5 tries, 4 of them down the right hand side. The 5th down the left....well, we'd given up by then. I'm not saying Shenton is a super defender, i just think we were disorganised when he left the field at the result of a reshuffle.
There is not a 30 point margin between them 2 teams. Credit to the Aussies. They scored some amazing try's.
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| You appear to be living in a dream world. Another pasting by the Aussies.
English RL is a joke...................and that doesn't mean I am happy about it, just fed up watching 37 years of losers.
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| Quote ="Hoofer"You appear to be living in a dream world. Another pasting by the Aussies.
English RL is a joke...................and that doesn't mean I am happy about it, just fed up watching 37 years of losers.'"
A dream world? We were neck & neck 3/4's of the way in. Yes, i know you have to play the full 80,but after the injury we imploded. We see it in club games, a few things go against you, then suddenly they get a good roll on,and you end up with a one sided scoreline ie. We're in there 30, Tomkins can't get up to play the ball. He's eventually released but shoved down to the ground. Instead of being awarded a penalty,a knock on is given against him. Australia then score from that set of six. At that point it was still anyone's game. Its that easy how a game can turn. The right decision should have been a penalty, who knows what England could have done from that.
So to call a team (that beat the World champs last week) a bunch of losers is unfair.
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| Quote ="Hoofer"You appear to be living in a dream world. Another pasting by the Aussies.
English RL is a joke...................and that doesn't mean I am happy about it, just fed up watching 37 years of losers.'"
Perfectly true,yet again don't the poms ALWAYS live in a dreamworld at sport.
Tony Smith playing 4 front rowers in the side,you cant imagine anything more idiotic than that....4 carthorses against the Greyhounds,something had to give,and it did.
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| Quote ="10940"Perfectly true,yet again don't the poms ALWAYS live in a dreamworld at sport.
Tony Smith playing 4 front rowers in the side,you cant imagine anything more idiotic than that....4 carthorses against the Greyhounds,something had to give,and it did.'"
Bollocks mate. Burgess was exceptional tonight, and really stood out. To say he's just a front rower is a bit short sighted. He took his 2 trys beautifully, including a lovely dummy on Slater for the 1st. He's not a big charging lump like your no.8, he can play a bit of rugby.
And Peacock as played many years in the 2nd row/loose forward position-even winning MOS there,before switching to prop.
Well done on another win.
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| Quote ="10940"Perfectly true,yet again don't the poms ALWAYS live in a dreamworld at sport.
Tony Smith playing 4 front rowers in the side,you cant imagine anything more idiotic than that....4 carthorses against the Greyhounds,something had to give,and it did.'"
Oh, and just to add, we might live in a dream world at sport, but RL is 1 of a v few sports you Aussies are doing well in. Your footy is crap, your not world champs at cricket (thanks for the Ashes too), or rugby union either....oh hold on. You're not world champs in rugby league either....i thought u lot were great at everything?
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| Quote ="10940"Perfectly true,yet again don't the poms ALWAYS live in a dreamworld at sport.
Tony Smith playing 4 front rowers in the side,you cant imagine anything more idiotic than that....4 carthorses against the Greyhounds,something had to give,and it did.'"
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| Great test match for 60 min.
I think England will be better for it. I really like the look of Tomkins and Eastwood. Just need to get some match winners in the backs and things might be different.
However in saying that Australia really went into overdrive in the last 20 min showing some great skill in attack.
Slater is a freak. And how good was Cam Smith tonight.
One thing i have to say though is that I really struggle to listen to Bill Arthur on Sky. He would be the most biased commentator on TV. He is struggled to compliment the skills that were on show tonight and acknowledge that England will be better and improve over the next few years with some great kids coming the ranks.
Brian Carney showed what a champion he is with great insight into the skills of the Kangaroos and also knowing that England played a very good game tonight. The final score is no reflection of how close this test match was.
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| Shenton's side of the field has been solid. The scoreline tonight should say that it was a real game and it was anyone's to win until the last 15 minutes or so when Shenny went off.
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| Quote ="WindleSaint"Oh, and just to add, we might live in a dream world at sport, but RL is 1 of a v few sports you Aussies are doing well in. Your footy is crap, your not world champs at cricket (thanks for the Ashes too), or rugby union either....oh hold on. You're not world champs in rugby league either....i thought u lot were great at everything?'"
Aren't their 'Sheilas' World Champs at Netball? Not all bad then!
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| Quote ="WindleSaint"Unlucky tonight. I was v proud of England tonight. They really matched them, toe to toe. I know that might sound stupid,cos the scoreline reflects a different one sided game.
For me, the game changed when Shenton got knocked out. It was 16-22. When he got carried off, England then conceded 5 tries, 4 of them down the right hand side. The 5th down the left....well, we'd given up by then. I'm not saying Shenton is a super defender, i just think we were disorganised when he left the field at the result of a reshuffle.
There is not a 30 point margin between them 2 teams. Credit to the Aussies. They scored some amazing try's.'"
What a load of codswallop,ifyou are proud of Englands performance last night,then you are very easily pleased,from your post I presume you meant that you were proud because you didn't get belted by 60 points.
And the injury to Shenton did NOTHING to the score line,you poms just want to use anything as an excuse for the perpetual hidings that you get fromthe Aussies,and have done for more than 37 years,and if you don't change your style of play,the NEXT 37 years.....and talking about giving up,that is what Australia did at halftime when we beat you by 10 points because we can nailyou by 40 or50 anytime we want,ANYTIME.
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| Quote ="WindleSaint"Oh, and just to add, we might live in a dream world at sport, but RL is 1 of a v few sports you Aussies are doing well in. Your footy is crap, your not world champs at cricket (thanks for the Ashes too), or rugby union either....oh hold on. You're not world champs in rugby league either....i thought u lot were great at everything?'"
A lot greater than you shower at most sports,Tiddley-winks Curling and snooker are about the only sports we cant beat you at,...dont forget we beat you at soccer the last time we met,and that is the yardstick we must go by,...don't say "itwas only a friendly"there is never anything friendly between Australia & England at sport.and just wait for the Commonwealth games results,boy o boy will you take yet another slugging there.
46-16 dont forget it EASY VERY EASY.
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| Quote ="WindleSaint". I know that might sound stupid,cos the scoreline reflects a different one sided game.
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It is stupid and it was one sided for the last 20 minutes VERY onesided.
46-16..well I call it one-sided.
And dont forget we had our first try disallowed and many officials disagreed with that,it was a very debatable point.
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| Quote ="WindleSaint"Unlucky tonight. I was v proud of England tonight. They really matched them, toe to toe. '"
I was very proud of England for 60 minutes when they matched them toe to toe. For the last 20 minutes, though, I was very embarrassed by England because they capitulated. They decided not to bother defending anymore but instead opted for the easy course of letting their backline run riot. I hope the boys are proud of that because I wasn't. I'd frozen by butt off for over three hours and cheered my head off each time they scored, looked close to scoring (a number of times) and defended well. At least they could have lost with dignity.
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| Quote ="10940"And dont forget we had our first try disallowed and many officials disagreed with that,it was a very debatable point.'"
And don't forget that Slater had a clear knock on given as a try, so things balance out.
What you're whinging about when you actually won I have no idea. But you Aussies whinge at anything and everything.
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| Quote ="10940"A lot greater than you shower at most sports,Tiddley-winks Curling and snooker are about the only sports we cant beat you at,...dont forget we beat you at soccer the last time we met,and that is the yardstick we must go by,...don't say "itwas only a friendly"there is never anything friendly between Australia & England at sport.and just wait for the Commonwealth games results,boy o boy will you take yet another slugging there.
46-16 dont forget it EASY VERY EASY.'"
What were the medal totals in the last Olympics again?
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| Three MAJOR turning points in last nights game..
1. Burgess not passing to Tomkins with he line begging to make it 12-0
2. Tomkins having a penalty against him for not playing the ball properly when the Aussie player was all over him, they went down field and score in the next set of six.
3. Alfie Langer spending the whole first half coaching on field, directing their defensive line and calling the plays in attack.
Would have been a totally different game
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| Quote ="Owdpopularsider"Three MAJOR turning points in last nights game..
1. Burgess not passing to Tomkins with he line begging to make it 12-0
2. Tomkins having a penalty against him for not playing the ball properly when the Aussie player was all over him, they went down field and score in the next set of six.
3. Alfie Langer spending the whole first half coaching on field, directing their defensive line and calling the plays in attack.
Would have been a totally different game'"
The Inglis try also.
England ahead at half time - different game OR
16-16 with 15 to go - different game
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| Tony Smith has resigned as coach of the England rugby league side.
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| Quote ="Conroy"What were the medal totals in the last Olympics again?'"
Yes, just how many medals did English players earn?
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| Thats a shame, i thought he was doing ok.
Positives- destroying the Kiwis 3-0 in the test series,including a 44-0 win.
Getting us to the four nations final.
Having the balls to drop big name players like Pryce, Burrows, McGuire, Gleeson etc and bringing in youth.
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The World Cup.
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| Quote ="WindleSaint"Thats a shame, i thought he was doing ok.
Positives- destroying the Kiwis 3-0 in the test series,including a 44-0 win.
Getting us to the four nations final.
Having the balls to drop big name players like Pryce, Burrows, McGuire, Gleeson etc and bringing in youth.
Negatives-
The World Cup.
And still not winning anything but I won't hold that against him'"
Added a negative of my own
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| Quote ="10940"What a load of codswallop,ifyou are proud of Englands performance last night,then you are very easily pleased,from your post I presume you meant that you were proud because you didn't get belted by 60 points.
And the injury to Shenton did NOTHING to the score line,you poms just want to use anything as an excuse for the perpetual hidings that you get fromthe Aussies,and have done for more than 37 years,and if you don't change your style of play,the NEXT 37 years.....and talking about giving up,that is what Australia did at halftime when we beat you by 10 points because we can nailyou by 40 or50 anytime we want,ANYTIME.'"
Are you banging on again? You just compared Burgess & Peacock to carthorses & now you're making it sound like we've never beaten you in 37 years.
Slag us off as much as you want. We are gracious in defeat, unlike you in victory. So as i've said a few times already on this thread 'well done'.
You personally remind of the old joke....Whats the difference between Australia & a yoghurt? If you left a yoghurt for a few hundred years it would develop culture.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"I was very proud of England for 60 minutes when they matched them toe to toe. For the last 20 minutes, though, I was very embarrassed by England because they capitulated. They decided not to bother defending anymore but instead opted for the easy course of letting their backline run riot. I hope the boys are proud of that because I wasn't. I'd frozen by butt off for over three hours and cheered my head off each time they scored, looked close to scoring (a number of times) and defended well. At least they could have lost with dignity.'"
Totally agree. The record books will show the score alone and not how close the game was in reality. That last 20 minutes was extremely disappointing. I had driven up from the Midlands (not the ends of the earth, I know) via several diversions thanks to an M1 closure for the most of the day. I don't think the crowd helped in that last 20. The ground was half empty by full time! Some may say cause, some may say effect, but some of the people sat around me arrived 10 minutes into the game and left 15 minutes before the end. And they weren't Wiganners ! What kind of message does that send to the players? The Kiwis can stage a comeback, so why couldn't we ?
In some respects our players seemed a little naive. I guess that comes with the relative inexperience some have at international level. Having said that, I was proud of their energy and passion compared to the "old school". Until the last 20 that is..........
I haven't seen the game again yet, so I'll reserve judgement on some of the "decisions" until then.
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| Quote ="10940"It is stupid and it was one sided for the last 20 minutes VERY onesided.
46-16..well I call it one-sided.
And dont forget we had our first try disallowed and many officials disagreed with that,it was a very debatable point.'" pmsl wot a tool...i bet you were one of those that said you cons should have been handed the world cup before a ball had been touched...and then were silenced...i dont mind ppl that gloat but dont think your overhyped gutless national team are unbeatable just ask the kiwi's
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