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| Surely part of Celtic's franchise application was thier long term lease of Brewery Field
This has now been sold for half a million pounds
Why ?
Yes they will now pay a small rental but long term it would seem a bad idea
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| Long term the future (as planned and announced, at least) is a new stadium for the Crusaders, the football team and (possibly) Bridgend RU, is it not?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Surely part of Celtic's franchise application was thier long term lease of Brewery Field
This has now been sold for half a million pounds
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Yes they will now pay a small rental but long term it would seem a bad idea'"
The sale of the lease was accompanied by a 25 year agreement to play there.
I think we're just about safe for the 3 year period we've been given so far.
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| Linky?
I've always wanted to put that. Thanks Starbug
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| Quote ="littlerich"Linky?
I've always wanted to put that. Thanks Starbug
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Thanks for what?
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Thanks for what?'"
Nevermind, the moment's gone.
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| It's not the big thing it is being made out to be. As somebody on our site put it -
No-one at the club is unhappy about this. It's an arrangement used by many clubs such as Leigh Centurions and Leeds Rhinos for example. It means one company runs the ground and the club have devote more time and effort to concentrate club matters. I wouldn't say it's a non-story but it's certainly not a scandal and the stadium company have our best interests at heart as they know the Crusaders are the primary tenants.
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| Quote ="littlerich"icon_lol.gif Nevermind, the moment's gone.'"
I see now, ignore me it's late.
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| Quote ="littlerich":twln0878:twln0878Linky?:twln0878
I've always wanted to put that. Thanks Starbug
'" stating on the radio tonight that " they hope to start in 6 months and it ' should ' be finished for October 2010 " , not a cat in hells chance as it is a 2 year build at the absolute minimum , more like 3
Celtic , any proposed ' new stadium ' is at least 5/6 years away and to give up the ownership of a lease on a prime town centre site like Brewery Field for 500 K is very strange
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"I see now, ignore me it's late.
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"It's not the big thing it is being made out to be. As somebody on our site put it -
No-one at the club is unhappy about this. It's an arrangement used by many clubs such as Leigh Centurions and Leeds Rhinos for example. It means one company runs the ground and the club have devote more time and effort to concentrate club matters. I wouldn't say it's a non-story but it's certainly not a scandal and the stadium company have our best interests at heart as they know the Crusaders are the primary tenants.'"
Care to explain the similarities ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Care to explain the similarities ?'"
No it wasn't my post
The point was that the ground is being maintained and expanded upon by Brewery Field Ltd. It benefits all of the clubs that play their rather than the Crusaders paying for the upkeep of the stadium and everything that comes with that out of their own pockets. We're certainly better off as a result of this.
What is the set up with you lot and Leigh Genesis playing there?
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders":2sj0scp0:2sj0scp0No it wasn't my post :2sj0scp0
The point was that the ground is being maintained and expanded upon by Brewery Field Ltd. It benefits all of the clubs that play their rather than the Crusaders paying for the upkeep of the stadium and everything that comes with that out of their own pockets. We're certainly better off as a result of this.
What is the set up with you lot and Leigh Genesis playing there?'" they will make serious money from thier ownership of the lease on Brewery Field
Sound more like a ' cash flow ' issue to me
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| Quote ="Starbug"So you posted something that you didn't have a clue about
Leigh Genisis dont play at the LSV despite it being partly financed by thier ability to get funding , they cannot afford to
I'm sure Mr Samuels didn't inform the RFL that he might be doing this
Having a controlable long term lease and having a relatively short term rental agreemant are totally different things
If the Ravens and the footy team are also lined up to play at the ' proposed ' new stadium then when it all comes to fruition [ if ever they will make serious money from thier ownership of the lease on Brewery Field
Sound more like a ' cash flow ' issue to me'"
What's relatively short about 25 years?
Why does it sound like a cash flow problem to you?
I think it makes perfect sense to pass on the upkeep and maintenance costs of a ground to another party as long as you guarantee you will be playing at it.
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| Also how many teams in Super League own their own grounds?
You'd be surprised how many don't. They seem to get on fine.
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| Not quite causing the shock and outrage it intended is it?
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Also how many teams in Super League own their own grounds?
You'd be surprised how many don't. They seem to get on fine.'"
I know exactly how many dont ' own ' thier own grounds
Do they seem to get on fine ?
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Not quite causing the shock and outrage it intended is it?'"
I am shocked and outraged.
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| Quote ="littlerich"I am shocked and outraged.'"
Trust you.
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| Quote ="Starbug"I know exactly how many dont ' own ' thier own grounds
Do they seem to get on fine ?'"
Wigan and Hull don't seem to do too bad do they?
Hull KR this year seem to be going along quite nicely. Widnes, the team some people seem to think should have been in before us, need any more?
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| Quote ="Starbug"I know exactly how many dont ' own ' thier own grounds
Do they seem to get on fine ?'"
Love the way you totally dodged the last questions too.
25 years is way long enough, given the fact there are lots of other grounds in South Wales that are adequate as well as, in my opinion, there will be a ground in Bridgend by then.
People at the club are happy about this as in an old ground like BF it takes a lot of money to keep it in some kind of fit state never mind improve it. The group who have come in are talking of doing just that. Improved stadium with better pitch and not paying a penny out of our own coffers. Good business whatever way you look at it.
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| Starbug, I'm off to bed now me old mucka.
I'd just like to congratulate you and nominate you for the end of season awards on what has to be one of the most p!ss poor attempts at trolling/ stirring I have ever witnessed on these boards.
You should have left it at the title or better still just leave posting anything of this calibre again please and save all of our time.
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| Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Love the way you totally dodged the last questions too.
25 years is way long enough, given the fact there are lots of other grounds in South Wales that are adequate as well as, in my opinion, there will be a ground in Bridgend by then.
People at the club are happy about this as in an old ground like BF it takes a lot of money to keep it in some kind of fit state never mind improve it. The group who have come in are talking of doing just that. Improved stadium with better pitch and not paying a penny out of our own coffers. Good business whatever way you look at it.'"
25 years is long enough but irrelevant as the Crusaders only have an agreement to play for 5 years at the Brewery.
And nowhere has it stated what rent the Crusaders may or may not have to pay. The only rent talked about in all the articles is the rent paid by The Brewery Field to the council.
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| Don't know what the issue is here. If it means wading through a couple of grounds a la London to find a decent home then so be it.
The new Swansea stadium looks a cracker.
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| The only concern here is the WRU's involvement in the deal, through their funding of Bridgend Ravens' share of the deal.
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