If Toronto earn promotion to the superleague, then the agreement with the RFL is completed !
Ah but Ahh, that's all fine, the written agreement is that Toronto will fund all clubs expenses including travelling
For all clubs outside division one = super league. Therefore who will fund super league clubs, all clubs, themselves ?
Or is a new agreement required ?
I do think MC won"t be that pleased with that issue.

Wakefield fans are strange

Good thread this.

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I don’t know why you would post that. It’s an idiotic statement.

It’s worth your of discussion because, if he’s correct, I’m sure lots of chairmen will be concerned.

I would guess that he’s not right and that if he is, a new deal will be done.

He's not even a Wakefield fan.

Even if he is, his point is valid.

Doesn’t matter which club he supports.

Or she, of course.

Super League clubs should be able to afford to pay for the travel of 1 away game per year to Toronto, just as they should be able to afford to find an academy and a reserve grade.

He's (yet another) troll. Just for a change.....

If SL clubs put on their thinking caps, they'd start talking to Air Transat about a special travel package for the club given that Air Transat might be making money on flying over away fans.

Just a thought.

Willzay completely wrong, i.am a WAKEY fan & have been for more than 40yrs ! I also have a season ticket as do all my family !
I am not a troll, but I do ask questions, some people do not like !
The fact is that travel for 19 plus staff for several days is quite a cost, teams already travel to catalan in one day
Because of cost !
Go to google and toronto & view written agreement !

You are correct that it will cost clubs, but who actually cares? Fans of top football clubs spend thousands travelling around Europe following their clubs, two trips a year is not much to ask if you can’t afford it that’s tough it’s what life is about, we have to stop this catering for fans who can’t afford to pay & focus on the ones that can & will pay, sorry if sounds cruel but so is life. I personally am excited about a trip to Toronto & if health permitting I will be off. If clubs can’t or the RFL organise block bookings & offset the cost by selling travel to fans then we are lost anyway.

If a full time professional super league club can't afford 1 trip per season to Toronto then man this competition has some serious problems.

How about you look at Catalan and Toulouse travel costs over the season and compare that to 1 single trip to Toronto.

The English based teams have it pretty damn nice compared to what the French clubs have to pay.

Then he should gather up his toys and f**k off and play elsewhere, freeing up £1,800,000 of perpetually wasted central funding that is spent each year on survival rather than growth!

The reality is that whether Toronto are good for the game or not, they are at least giving it a go and apparently doing it with a smile on their faces......meanwhile we are inundated with threads bemoaning expansion, generally started by fans of tin pot pit village clubs, teetering on the financial brink and watched by an ageing and shrinking fan base.

Carter can use that spare 750k he’s got burning a hole in his pocket.

then let the french teams organize their own league, if they can find enough quality teams

They have their own leagues...
..oh the Irony. English RL can't even support 12 top flight sides with the likes of Widnes and Salford on the edge of the cliff and potentially being replaced by a French and Canadian side......and you reckon the french have an issue with quality players, when sides in the UK are rammed with average Aussies?

The attitude of the NIMBY brigade in RL is it's biggest threat. Adverse to change, unwilling to travel and distrusting of johnny foreigner.....Sir Oswald would be so proud

Unfair ' having a pop at lower teams fans who haven't even posted on this thread , doesn't help the cause Gutters

The majority of threads on the front page of the VT are those started by fans of Wakey or Leigh or other smaller clubs bemoaning expansion, be that because of the red herring that is away fans not traveling or travelling to Toronto being an expense. Leigh look like they have gone boom or bust, wakefield are living hand to moth, Salford and Widnes are on the brink and I'm the bad guy?

I don't trust Toronto, but the arguments being used to "dis' them just hold no water, but what fans of clubs lie wakey will never admit is that without their annual £1,800,000 hand out, they'd be dead an buried and that's why they are scared of Toronto, not because they'd miss out on £10 of away fan ticket revenue

my remarks were aimed at the "The English based teams have it pretty damn nice compared to what the French clubs have to pay."comment, if they want to play then they have to pay

I find it better to reply to the post , not necessarily the poster , and certainly not to others who haven't even posted , as I said , it doesn't help the cause

Nobody is disputing that the French clubs should not have to pay. What will be disputed is seeing any english club moan about travel costs to Toronto. Not when the French clubs just get on with things and pay a hell lot more.

Any club who cannot afford a single trip to Toronto shouldn't be in super league quite frankly.

Are we gonna see Salford get the buckets out next season asking for fans to fund the trip for the players and staff??

This!

Clubs seem to have no issues getting to Perpignan each year. Just another poop stirring thread from a bitter fan who hates the thought of 'his game' expanding....yawn
Jealousy keeps you imprisoned sunshine. Let it go.

As other posters have said. It really shouldn't be an issue with regards SL.

However, if Toronto aren't promoted, and stay in the championship. Then it does become an issue.

Yet historically clubs have never had to fund flying 20+ staff to another continent with accommodation for a few days. Why should they be able to afford such a significant expense?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was on the understanding (that at least a few years ago and maybe even now) the RFL funded British clubs' flights to Catalans.

I have no objection to clubs setting up in other countries. What I do object to is the loss of a domestic league. If we want an international competition (do we) then make a Champions League style competition or expand the World Club Challenge. Don't deny me and other genuine fans the opportunity to see their team home and away. We have enough problems with non-televised matches being on Fridays which are almost impossible to get to due to the unpredictable M62/other roads (not just the M62 corridor) and time off work.

As for people quoting football fans travelling around Europe, money and attendance wise that is a very different league to RL. The European matches are televised and clubs have 30/40,000 plus regular attendances as opposed to our big clubs getting around 10k.