Around 10 years ago Wakefield & Castleford stated they were going to have new stadium built . I was a guest of Rapid Solicitors in February 2013 when wakefield beat Hull Kr 36-20. , Andrew Glover and his American wife were sat at the table next to us , On our table was a chap who told me he owned a post office in wakefield and was a club sponsor , he was telling me that the new stadium was imminent . The hospitality at Wakefield was excellent , Mr Glover even got The Loveable Rogues to play at our table for the kids .

Around the same time Castleford were announcing plans for a new stadium , I think it was when Superleague Stadiums were given a rating by the RFL or SL ? .

Neither Stadiums have come to fruition , I think Castlefords was planned to be built near XScape .

Why is it taking so long ? . genuine question . Why havent the two clubs got together and offered to groundshare this may help the development of a new stadium .

Cas abandoned one stadium plan and are now praying some retail development company are building them a new stadium on a different site, but that's not going anywhere fast either.

Wakefield just forget it, that's needs not a whole thread but a whole forum to itself.

Around ten years ago, stadium facilities were part of the licencing criteria for Super League at the time so almost every club was, at some point, posting artist impressions on their website and in the local papers. Some clubs did manage to get new stadium developments through, others didn't - namely Wakefield and Castleford.

Neither club has the funding to go it alone, so they are reliant on either the support of the private sector, or local government.

Wakefield Council are in a difficult position because both clubs want their own stadium and, particuarly in an era of austerity, there money isn't there to provide that for two of the three clubs in their district. The reasons why both clubs want their own facilities are obvious. Aside from the geography and rivalry between the clubs, non-matchday revenue is vitally important to professional sporting clubs and it becomes very hard to generate that in shared or rented facilities.

Both have then turned to the private sector.

Castleford's original plan was to jump into bed with a retail developer (as happened at Warrington and St Helens), but that coincided with an economic recession and the rise of e-retail, leading to many retailers (particuarly big-box retail) deciding not to open new 'out of town' stores. Without the retailer to anchor the development, it was never going to happen.

Wakefield did have a plan to jump into bed with a warehouse developer, and a Section 21 planning notice was included as a condition for allowing that developer to build on green belt land. Without going into the finer details, the enforcement of that Section 21 has been botched by the council and the developer has used a loophole to get out of building the stadium.

Castleford's plan to date is to pursue a different site near Glasshoughton (I believe the development is called Axiom?). As far as I recall, the current plan for Wakefield is to redevelop Belle Vue along with some community facilities, but I may be wrong on that.

how can they both get SL licences without stadiums that meet the SL requirements?

cant keep getting away with failed promises to the rfl but seems they can

There's no such thing as an 'SL Licence', that's how. The stadium criteria has been largely (and quietly) dropped, although apparently Wakefield do have some of their central funding docked?

50k a year I think.

I can see this ones going to keep everyone amused for few weeks

where would you like to start, there's no common ground for both to share, but while the Wakefield council is run by castleford supporters we haven't a pray of getting a stadium in which green land was turn to brown to allow developers to expand Wakefields economy for the promise of a community stadium, the city was conned

out of interest and not wanting to light the blue touch paper too much, but let's say there was a major h & s review of facilities across sport (similar to the taylor report) and both stadiums failed to meet the criteria. how would supporters feel if the option was to share 1 new ground or drop out of superleague and play at a lower standard

Some years ago us at hull kr was having the same problem merge or share a ground with hull we said no and so did hull hull share with hull city football we have a ground but it is lease hold of some company we have just a couple of years ago built a new stand so if we can I am sure the pair of them can

Some years ago us at hull kr was having the same problem merge or share a ground with hull we said no and so did hull hull share with hull city football we have a ground but it is lease hold of some company we have just a couple of years ago built a new stand so if we can I am sure the pair of them can

I very much doubt a ground share will ever happen due to the location, either clubs fans would find it hard to call it home, had we not been told not to make a bid on the stadium at the time of sale I think we'd of owned ours, now its owned by another property developer.
when you talk about H/S it seemed at the time that one club could be overlooked while the other had its pants pulled down

Get off your high horse, you own 20% of the stadium you play in; never come close to filling it despite all the free tickets and have finished lower in the league than us 2 seasons in a row. I'd say providing we show willing (which we do) there's nothing currently wrong with where we play.

Maybe if we were allowed to absorb and rod Hudds like they did with Sheffield we'd be fine - I mean you got away with daylight robbery on that one didn't you.

Genuine troll question, jeez you're an obsessed bore.

its pointless bitching about it I'd love a stadium like theirs even if we didn't own it, the fact is RL in the birthplace where it was born is dying a slow death and its painful to see, looks like they will always be in the shadow of town

I'm passed all the insults thrown at us now in fact the more publicity the better, bring it on

The council have said many times it would be illegal to use public money on a private venture.
It would cost atleast £15m to build a new stadium, Wakefield have no money Castleford have no money(they own their ground which can only be sold for housing which is worth £4/5m and over £1m is owed to the Fulton family.

Internet reply "I've got a great idea, share a stadium and $15m will magically appear."

In all honestly Snowie, give me the option of sit in an empty stadium (like the giants) and watch Wakefield or go down to good old Belle Vue where despite the numbers there's always an atmosphere, I'd pick the latter week in week out.

it wasn't going to be a private venture, it was a sweetener to the city of Wakefield for freeing up green belt land so they could masses of profit and generate the city, for what it is worth I'd now share a stadium but not at Castleford that's where the problem is for me

I love my stadium like no other and wish we could regenerate it back to suitable standard so others could stop complaining, I've no problem ing up against a wall in the old toilets or standing on old terracing

I think he's talking about the proposed Cas stadium

No surprise who started the thread and what he intentions are. Genuine question my .

Personally I'd rather play at Dewsbury than end up playing in a stadium in Castleford. I am sure Cas fans would rather play at Hunslet than share a stadium in Wakey. The best stadium in the district is in Fev but would either (or both) of us want to end up there?

If we lived in a perfect world all teams would own a state of the art recently built stadium, that's full to capacity for each and every game. But we don't. If you took the time to read some of the threads on the Castleford and Wakefield forums,you might appreciate how frustrating it has been for groups of supporters who are still trying to move things forward. Most would have thrown the towel in due to bureaucrats and folk trying to make quick money obstructing any progress. I take my hat off to them for fighting on, and I hope one day they sit in the stadium that they deserve.

On a lighter note, I didn't know Rogues Gallery was a children's entertainer, nor lovable.