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| Disgraceful but not surprising
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| Jack Smith should be ashamed at missing that, he's looking straight at it!!
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| Daft question, but is there any chance he was able to apply downward pressure, before the ball hit the deck - or was it already bouncing up? Still photos can sometimes be misleading.
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| Quote ="Karen"Jack Smith should be ashamed at missing that, he's looking straight at it!!'"
Agree, he's also the same ref who gave KR a try against Leigh in last years M8s from an illegal ptb. In fact the player had hardly left the ground when he played it , but still gave the try. But hey ho that's history now.
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| Quote ="Alan"Daft question, but is there any chance he was able to apply downward pressure, before the ball hit the deck - or was it already bouncing up? Still photos can sometimes be misleading.'"
I'm no scientist, but unless MCB has the ability to defy gravity and also bounce back up, that photo suggests the ball has been dropped rather than bouncing back up after being grounded lol
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| Quote ="Alan"Daft question, but is there any chance he was able to apply downward pressure, before the ball hit the deck - or was it already bouncing up? Still photos can sometimes be misleading.'"
It's not a daft question - and whilst there was chance for that to happen, it very definitely didn't on this occasion; it was a no-try, and even from the crappy footage and at full speed, everyone with eyes could see that. Apart from the officials, one of whom was a few feet away and staring intently at the action. Baffling.
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Quote ="Alan"Daft question, but is there any chance he was able to apply downward pressure, before the ball hit the deck - or was it already bouncing up? Still photos can sometimes be misleading.'"
Not in this case: the slow-mo was conclusive. That said, in real time the touch judge's decision was not as obvious as some would have it
www.to13.com/actualites/toronto- ... ume-video/
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Not in this case: the slow-mo was conclusive. That said, in real time the touch judge's decision was not as obvious as some would have it
www.to13.com/actualites/toronto- ... ume-video/
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I can honestly say that in real time, I'd have given that.
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I can honestly say that in real time, I'd have given that.
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| I hadn't seen the replay before my post. I agree it wasn't a try, although have some sympathy for the officials. A video ref would certainly have disallowed it though. Thanks for posting the replay link.
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Yep,very difficult for the officials to see that at normal speed,so can't blame them really. I am surprised though ,that a very important game was televised without a VR.
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Yep,very difficult for the officials to see that at normal speed,so can't blame them really. I am surprised though ,that a very important game was televised without a VR.
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| Quote ="Karen"I can honestly say that in real time, I'd have given that.'"
Stevie wonder could have spotted that
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Stevie wonder could have spotted that'"
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Stevie wonder could have spotted that'"
At full speed there is nothing wrong with it
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| We can only hope that in the event of the MPG being played in Toronto that the RFL change their approach and insist on sufficient cameras plus VR for that game to reduce the chances of a similar incident.
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| Quote ="wiganermike"We can only hope that in the event of the MPG being played in Toronto that the RFL change their approach and insist on sufficient cameras plus VR for that game to reduce the chances of a similar incident.'"
Or to perpetuate the theory that they want Toronto "in", maybe they dont want to cover all the angles
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| Agree with the above poster that at full speed, it's completely understandable why that would have been given. Tries have probably been given in similar circumstances at non-televised games throughout the course of this season, but those tries weren't available as a screenshot to provide click-bait for some ty "banter" page.
So yeah, it's a simple refereeing mistake - an understandable one, but a mistake. Should the tech be there to reduce those mistakes? Of course, but for whatever reason it wasn't there.
But yeah, something something conspiracy.
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| Am I missing something even at full speed you can still clearly see he drops it but it’s irrelevant now and Toulouse still had plenty of chances to win it
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| Lot of Leigh fans on this thread, strange when the game was between two overseas expansion clubs
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Am I missing something even at full speed you can still clearly see he drops it but it’s irrelevant now and Toulouse still had plenty of chances to win it'"
The reason it would have been difficult to spot at full speed is that after Caton-Brown drops it his hand makes downward contact with the ball again just as/after it hits the ground, the officials would have seen a downward blur and then a hand in contact with the ball as it hit the ground. Very easy mistake to make without the benefit of replay.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Lot of Leigh fans on this thread, strange when the game was between two overseas expansion clubs'"
I am the third of the lots of Leigh fans to comment but not on the topic just as your comment wasn’t, just noting your obsession. Do you get a buzz when you bring Leigh into everything?
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| Sir Kev is trying to detract from the fact super dooper Toronto may not be the knight in shining amour this sport apparently needs
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Lot of (6th placed & might go bust) Leigh fans on this thread, strange when the game was between two overseas expansion clubs'"
You forgot something, I've added it for you !
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Agree with the above poster that at full speed, it's completely understandable why that would have been given. Tries have probably been given in similar circumstances at non-televised games throughout the course of this season, but those tries weren't available as a screenshot to provide click-bait for some rubbish "banter" page.
So yeah, it's a simple refereeing mistake - an understandable one, but a mistake. Should the tech be there to reduce those mistakes? Of course, but for whatever reason it wasn't there.
But yeah, something something conspiracy.'"
Spot on. Others acting like their team have never been awarded a try that shouldn’t have stood.
What it does show is that it would be bad to get rid of VR’s completely at all games like some have suggested in the past because the televised games will still highlight things like this and just lead to more complaints and calls to bring VR’s back.
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