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| Got to say I wasn't a fan at first, but after 2 years of it I can't deny that it has produced some big moments.
Last year you had the dramatic scenes of Leeds winning the League leaders, this year we've had Leigh promoted, another last day shootout for the league leaders and the incredible drama of todays game going to Golden Point.
Yes theres a few things that could still be tweaked, timings of the League leaders sheild and the schedule of the Cup can be debated, but in terms of delivering big moments and media coverage for RL its delivering more than the old licencing structure IMO.
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| The only problem is the lack of excitement in the top 8.
As for the million pound game, Rovers finished 12th. If the structure wasn't there, they'd have gone down. They had a second chance and it was damn exciting.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The only problem is the lack of excitement in the top 8.
As for the million pound game, Rovers finished 12th. If the structure wasn't there, they'd have gone down. They had a second chance and it was damn exciting.'"
huddersfield finished 12th didn't they?
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"huddersfield finished 12th didn't they?'"
Only after 22 rounds. We've had at least 27 rounds for years now.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Only after 22 rounds. We've had at least 27 rounds for years now.'"
That doesn't really make any sense to be honest. Either Huddersfield finished 12th out of the SL sides as they were bottom after 23 rounds or Salford because they were the lowest placed SL side in the 8's.
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| Quote ="jakeyg95"That doesn't really make any sense to be honest. Either Huddersfield finished 12th out of the SL sides as they were bottom after 23 rounds or Salford because they were the lowest placed SL side in the 8's.'"
They finished 4th in the middle 8 at the end of the season. Had it been a normal full season, it would mean 12th. In every other season since Super League started, the club at the bottom after 22 rounds did not go down, because the season is longer than that.
You could just as easily have 4th in the middle 8's go down and Rovers still go down. Huddersfield clambered off the bottom towards the end of the season.
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| A more common sense structure would be 12th after 27 rounds has a play-off against the top Championship club, if you want drama. It would have kept the excitement for the play-offs.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"A more common sense structure would be 12th after 27 rounds has a play-off against the top Championship club, if you want drama. It would have kept the excitement for the play-offs.'"
Is there only a limited amount of excitement available or allowed ? , and it is only allowed at the top of SL ?
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| I would do a play-off between bottom 2 SL and top 2 Championship.
11th vs 2nd
12th vs 1st
Winners play each other in MPG
And a return of the top 5/6 play-off system.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Is there only a limited amount of excitement available or allowed ? , and it is only allowed at the top of SL ?'"
The point was that there wasn't any in the top 8. Keeping the play-offs until after 27 rounds would have preserved some of that. Have a play-off against the best Championship club and you get it there too, as well as not consigning clubs like the Bulls to near-bankruptcy.
This year it was skewed slightly by how good Leigh were. Most likely, the future will involve a Super League club and a Championship club.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"I would do a play-off between bottom 2 SL and top 2 Championship.
11th vs 2nd
12th vs 1st
Winners play each other in MPG
And a return of the top 5/6 play-off system.'"
Yes, me too, although the maths doesn't fit. If you did that, the league would be down to 11 teams the year after, as you'd lose the two losers plus the loser of the MPG. Something like that though, if it could be worked out.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Yes, me too, although the maths doesn't fit. If you did that, the league would be down to 11 teams the year after, as you'd lose the two losers plus the loser of the MPG.'"
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"I would do a play-off between bottom 2 SL and top 2 Championship.
11th vs 2nd
12th vs 1st
Winners play each other in MPG
And a return of the top 5/6 play-off system.'"
Do you want to rethink what you just posted ?
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| Toulouse to come in automatically next year so it's a 12 team league
Then back to franchising.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"The point was that there wasn't any in the top 8. Keeping the play-offs until after 27 rounds would have preserved some of that. Have a play-off against the best Championship club and you get it there too, as well as not consigning clubs like the Bulls to near-bankruptcy.
This year it was skewed slightly by how good Leigh were. Most likely, the future will involve a Super League club and a Championship club.'"
Why wasn't there any in the top 8 ? , and how do you KNOW there won't be next year ? , maybe this year the top of SL was ' skewed ' , and next year we'll have 7/8 teams all fighting for the play offs
Yes quite possibly next years MPG could be Leigh V HKR or Bradford , so what's the problem ?
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Toulouse to come in automatically next year so it's a 12 team league
Then back to franchising.'"
That's quite a turnaround from recommending a knock-out structure to increase end of year excitement.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Why wasn't there any in the top 8 ? , and how do you KNOW there won't be next year ? , maybe this year the top of SL was ' skewed ' , and next year we'll have 7/8 teams all fighting for the play offs
Yes quite possibly next years MPG could be Leigh V HKR or Bradford , so what's the problem ?'"
It was exciting by about game 5 of the Super 8's when the shield became imminent, but the first few rounds felt like it was about waiting for the semi-finals. But yes, you're right. I'm assuming Leeds will be back up there, but you wouldn't lose the excitement if we kept the old play-off system but found a way to have a MPG. Like against the top Championship club.
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| I honestly think it's the best system/structure we've had. I've loved both years!
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| Quote ="Psychedelic Casual"I honestly think it's the best system/structure we've had. I've loved both years!'"
Yup
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| This is a BS system and a stupid gimmick - it's part of the reason why anyone outside the sport doesn't take it seriously.
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| Quote ="Willzay"This is a BS system and a stupid gimmick - it's part of the reason why anyone outside the sport doesn't take it seriously.'"
Those ' outside ' the sport don't take RL seriously , nothing to do with its structure
Now ANYBODY today watching that game unfold knowing the consequences could not dislike it
Pure drama
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| Quote ="Willzay"This is a BS system and a stupid gimmick - it's part of the reason why anyone outside the sport doesn't take it seriously.'"
Are you missing Club Call?
Bless.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Those ' outside ' the sport don't take RL seriously , nothing to do with its structure
Now ANYBODY today watching that game unfold knowing the consequences could not dislike it
Pure drama'"
I know that the game had not finished too long before but, not a sniff of it on local or national news.
Surely something so dramatic should be worthy of 30 seconds on the news.
I thought that media city being in Salford was supposed to be good for the sport.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"They finished 4th in the middle 8 at the end of the season. Had it been a normal full season, it would mean 12th. In every other season since Super League started, the club at the bottom after 22 rounds did not go down, because the season is longer than that.
You could just as easily have 4th in the middle 8's go down and Rovers still go down. Huddersfield clambered off the bottom towards the end of the season.'"
Salford finished 5th, so by your logic they need up 13th !!!, not very good at maths I take it, seeing as there are only 12 teams in SL.
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| Quote ="rover49"Salford finished 5th, so by your logic they need up 13th !!!, not very good at maths I take it, seeing as there are only 12 teams in SL.'"
I agree. By rights, they shouldn't have been playing today and gone down. If you finish 4th in the middle 8's, with the Super 8's above you, you've finished 12th.
If you want some help with maths, I'd recommend working out how many minutes there are in eighty.
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