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| all gone a bit quiet from them the last few weeks hasn't it?
i hope they're all alright
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| I think they're all suffering from psychological whiplash
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| Quote ="meast"all gone a bit quiet from them the last few weeks hasn't it?
i hope they're all alright
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I think you’re getting a bit giddy that you could soon reprise your Bradford love-in .
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| i can't wait, i've missed them, don't leave it too long
but some of those Leigh fans from weeks back must be hiding and cringing under a very big stone
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| I hadn't seen the results until I saw this thread.
That is quite funny.
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| Ironically after all the bleating about it Leigh more than likely would've replaced Trinity if licensing was still in place.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Ironically after all the bleating about it Leigh more than likely would've replaced Trinity if licensing was still in place.'"
I bet you're gutted.
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| The remaining fixtures aren't very favourable for Leigh's chances. I'd say they had the toughest run in.
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| Quote ="Clearwing"The remaining fixtures aren't very favourable for Leigh's chances. I'd say they had the toughest run in.'"
Nah.They had the most difficult start of all the clubs because they had to play Super League sides at the start of The Qualifiers.
Their followers certainly let everyone know that;after they were beaten,of course.
I'm sure the RFL will amend things for them - despite the conspiracy.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Ironically after all the bleating about it Leigh more than likely would've replaced Trinity if licensing was still in place.'"
Without the return of P&R, we'd have never seen the investment we have seen and so I doubt we would have been anywhere near being favoured for a licence. No-one seemed interested in shovelling good money after bad when relying on a process that told our club that our new & completed stadium didn't exist in any meaningful sense? A process that rated Celtic Crusaders as better than Widnes & Leigh.
The club can rise and fall on it's own merit now, so the investment has come.
P.S. Wakefield playing out of Dewsbury in SL. That's going to be a car crash.
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| Peaked too soon, or just choked? Which one?
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| Well they certainly were too good for the Championship. Sadly, not good enough for SL
A tip for next season, don't be quite so cocky
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"Without the return of P&R, we'd have never seen the investment we have seen and so I doubt we would have been anywhere near being favoured for a licence. No-one seemed interested in shovelling good money after bad when relying on a process that told our club that our new & completed stadium didn't exist in any meaningful sense? A process that rated Celtic Crusaders as better than Widnes & Leigh.'" Celtic Crusaders made the NL1 Grand Final in 2008 and under a system of automatic P&R would've been promoted as one of the top 2 Championship clubs as Super League expanded to 14. Even under the current system they would've been strong contenders for promotion, whereas Leigh and Widnes would not.
If your club didn't want to put in the investment to allow them to make SL under the old system then whose fault is that?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Well they certainly were too good for the Championship. Sadly, not good enough for SL
A tip for next season, don't be quite so cocky
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How 'many Leigh fans were cocky' 9 or 10 ? Really some folk on here.....
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| Quote ="headhunter"Celtic Crusaders made the NL1 Grand Final in 2008 and under a system of automatic P&R would've been promoted as one of the top 2 Championship clubs as Super League expanded to 14. Even under the current system they would've been strong contenders for promotion, whereas Leigh and Widnes would not.
If your club didn't want to put in the investment to allow them to make SL under the old system then whose fault is that?'"
They did get promoted one year, got hammered week in and week out and were, I think -apologies if I'm wrong, the only team to be relegated from SL the year after they came up. But that wasn't their fault. It was because they didn't have enough time to recruit after being promoted. They had the same time as other teams that came up but it wasn't enough for poor little Leigh. And the years they didn't get promoted under P&R wasn't their fault either - if was cos of parachute payments. I forget now why they weren't in division 1 every year it existed before SL but I'm pretty sure it wasn't Leigh's fault
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| Quote ="Wollo-Wollo-Wollo-Wayoo"I bet you're gutted.'"
Now now Wollo you're an interesting poster who usually makes good, relevant points. Don't turn into chissitt.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"Peaked too soon, or just choked? Which one?'"
Choked IMHO.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Celtic Crusaders made the NL1 Grand Final in 2008 and under a system of automatic P&R would've been promoted as one of the top 2 Championship clubs as Super League expanded to 14.'"
True.
Yet irrelevant.
Celtic Crusaders had a decent side, but no club infrastructure to speak of and no foundations for success. Their promotion would have given them 1 season in the top flight, a rude shock and probably bankruptcy. They were not ready for the big time. As it was, they were guaranteed 3 years before reality bit properly.
Quote Even under the current system they would've been strong contenders for promotion, whereas Leigh and Widnes would not.'"
Speculation.
Quote If your club didn't want to put in the investment to allow them to make SL under the old system then whose fault is that?'"
I'll come back to this one later
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"True.
Yet irrelevant.
Celtic Crusaders had a decent side, but no club infrastructure to speak of and no foundations for success. Their promotion would have given them 1 season in the top flight, a rude shock and probably bankruptcy. They were not ready for the big time. As it was, they were guaranteed 3 years before reality bit properly.'" The club actually did have solid infrastructure as evidenced by the number of South Wales club-developed players that are still playing in SL despite the club only being there for one season. What they didn't have was a legit owner and the RFL should've made sure that Samuel wasn't a crook before admitting them to SL. The off-field organization was also a shambles in the first season. It's irrelevant though as we're talking about a system of P&R based solely on on-field success, and Celtic would've been promoted under such a system regardless of any of this. Whether or not you think they deserved a license is immaterial.
Quote Speculation.'" No, under the current Super 8's system the qualifying Championship teams would've been Salford, Celtic Crusaders, Halifax and Leigh. I didn't think Leigh finished that high so my mistake there, but Widnes certainly wouldn't have been involved.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Well they certainly were too good for the Championship. Sadly, not good enough for SL
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They were certainly top of the Championship in the indiscipline chart and with 2 players banned - one for knee use against your side,and then Acton for his action against Halifax - they seem to be leading the indiscipline chart in The Qualifiers.
There does seem to be some ganging-up against Wakefield - [url=http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/alex-murphy-wonders-hidden-agenda-10065961Cry Me A River[/url
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| Quote ="Angelic Cynic"There does seem to be some ganging-up against Wakefield - [url=http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/alex-murphy-wonders-hidden-agenda-10065961Cry Me A River[/url'"
Wakey have worked to the system in place. Not right but it was there to be manipulated. An earlier transfer dead-line date should have put a stop to it. It was obvious what they were doing when ex-coach Webster wrote 20 SL games off as friendles.
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The danger of taking the views of out of date, ex-players. Most of them haven't a bloody clue about the modern game.
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The danger of taking the views of out of date, ex-players. Most of them haven't a bloody clue about the modern game.
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As much as i respect him for what he did for my club i can't agree with him here
Leigh were given a chance of promotion but they blew it, they beat 2 SL clubs and competed well with a 3rd in the cup but their bottoms fell out when it came to the 8s, as a lot of people suspected it would.
i don't agree with what wakefield did but it wasn't illegal, but i still don't think it should be allowed to happen.
but Leigh only have themselves to blame for not getting promotion, no one else.
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As much as i respect him for what he did for my club i can't agree with him here
Leigh were given a chance of promotion but they blew it, they beat 2 SL clubs and competed well with a 3rd in the cup but their bottoms fell out when it came to the 8s, as a lot of people suspected it would.
i don't agree with what wakefield did but it wasn't illegal, but i still don't think it should be allowed to happen.
but Leigh only have themselves to blame for not getting promotion, no one else.
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