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| If after the internal investigation, Cas release Justin Carney, which SL clubs do you think would make a play for him? I think Catalan would probably bid for him and it would be a good place to go to get away from the fall out.
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| Would depend a lot on what he's on at Cas. Can't see him struggling for a club though.
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| Maybe Cas could sort out some kind of swap deal, they’ve probably no chance of getting any cash for him, so maybe they could get something out of the wreckage.
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| Swap for fages?
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| I wonder whether Wigan would take a punt. They're losing Burgess and even though I like Manfredi, I think Carney might tempt them.
However, as destructive as he is, does he have a complete enough game to hop from one club to another and replicate his good form. Its sometimes hard for players who've "found a good place" when they have to move on (Michael Shenton, for example).
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| Quote ="jools"Swap for fages?'"
Or Chase maybe ?
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| like the terry/bridge incident, bridge left. the club will see which player is more important to them once the sympathy has subsided and keep that player i reckon, carney is too valuble a player for cas to lose
sounds harsh on the innocent victim but cas wont want any other sl club having carney
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"I wonder whether Wigan would take a punt. They're losing Burgess and even though I like Manfredi, I think Carney might tempt them.
However, as destructive as he is, does he have a complete enough game to hop from one club to another and replicate his good form. Its sometimes hard for players who've "found a good place" when they have to move on (Michael Shenton, for example).'"
Possibly, if one of Manfredi or Charnley gets an injury next year we'd be screwed. I think he'd be a beast in our system.
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| Quote ="number 6"like the terry/bridge incident, bridge left. the club will see which player is more important to them once the sympathy has subsided and keep that player i reckon, carney is too valuble a player for cas to lose
sounds harsh on the innocent victim but cas wont want any other sl club having carney'"
Will that be based purely on playing ability, though?
You may have to consider the dressing room situation. If the players are up in arms and prepared to ostracise Carney for screwing over their mate, keeping him may be a destructive move.
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| Quote ="number 6"like the terry/bridge incident, bridge left. the club will see which player is more important to them once the sympathy has subsided and keep that player i reckon, carney is too valuble a player for cas to lose
sounds harsh on the innocent victim but cas wont want any other sl club having carney'"
I've no idea what's happened, but given you mention Terry and Bridge, has he been smashing a team mates misses? Weird if he's under investigation for that.
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| If they sack him then he'll just go back to the NRL I reckon. It's quite late in the day for clubs to suddenly find room on their 2016 cap to fit somebody like Carney in, he won't be cheap and many clubs have already finished their recruitment for next year.
How many clubs go into a season with enough cap space to fit Carney in? Not many I don't think.
With his try scoring rate he'll get a gig back in the NRL no problem.
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| If Salford and Cas were to do any swap deal, I imagine it would include BJB rather than Chase or Theo (who could well be a free agent by the end of September).
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| Salford is the obvious get out here if he is to stay in SL (should Cas get rid of course)
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| Quote ="PurpleCheeseWarrior"I've no idea what's happened, but given you mention Terry and Bridge, has he been smashing a team mates misses? Weird if he's under investigation for that.'"
going by whats been put on twitter it looks the same scenario as terry and bridge
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| This is worse than the W Bridge and J Terry situation. Bridge had split from his partner when Terry slept with her, as far as I know, and I don't have a problem with that, Bridge should have shook Terry's hand.
This is different as far as I know, again I might have my facts wrong.
It is rumoured that J Carney was sleeping with Nathan Massey's partner. The fact is we are animals, we are a part of the animal kingdom. And I'm sure that if this is true, that N Massey and J Carney are strong enough to get through it, albeit that Justin Carney will probably have to move clubs.
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| Quote ="OzWelsh"The fact is we are animals, we are a part of the animal kingdom. And I'm sure that if this is true, that N Massey and J Carney are strong enough to get through it, albeit that Justin Carney will probably have to move clubs.'"
What a bizarre statement.
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| Quote ="Seth"What a bizarre statement.'"
I like the bit about the animals.
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| Quote ="EL CAMO"Would depend a lot on what he's on at Cas.'"
Somebody else's wife?
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| Worse than the Terry & Bridge situation. Plus Terry was the club captain.
Denny Solomona seemed to do pretty well in Carney's absence.
Cas have to get rid of Carney or they might as well write off next season as well as this. It's a shame because he's a cracking player. But if he has so little respect for his teammates then Cas need to get rid either now or at the end of the season.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Salford is the obvious get out here if he is to stay in SL (should Cas get rid of course)'"
Assuming Salford are in SL next Season!!!
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| Quote ="number 6"like the terry/bridge incident, bridge left. the club will see which player is more important to them once the sympathy has subsided and keep that player i reckon, carney is too valuble a player for cas to lose
sounds harsh on the innocent victim but cas wont want any other sl club having carney'"
Bridge had left the club and was playing for Man City when the story broke so it didn't leave Chelsea with an awkward decision.
Bridge however ruled himself out of selection for England whilst Terry was still playing for the national side, which again saved management and coaches from making the tough decision.
Like one of the other posters said, you have to consider the rest of the dressing room. Those in the squad who are closest to Massey will be pretty pee'd off if their close mate is sent packing because of what Carney did. It would probably tear the dressing room apart keeping Carney there. He needs to be sold/released whatever.
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| Quote ="OzWelsh"The fact is we are animals, we are a part of the animal kingdom.'"
How did that line work out for you? Mine wasn't buying it at all.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"If Salford and Cas were to do any swap deal, I imagine it would include BJB rather than Chase or Theo (who could well be a free agent by the end of September).'"
As a Cas fan, Carney for:
BJB - I'd be distraught unless it involved a large fee and/or another player.
Chase - Quality wise, absolutely - best player I've seen in a Cas shirt, but any questions over impact on dressing room then definitely not (we've been overachieving on the back of spirit and work ethic and nothing, including the brilliance of Carney or Chase should jeopardise that).
Fages - definitely. I'm not personally his greatest admirer but would be an ideal replacement for Finn and I feel he'd work well with Gale.
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| Is she tidy??
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