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From the SMH:
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/set- ... 1novz.html
Second paragraph - Nigel Wood stating that there is no vacancy for the England job and McNamara is 1 year into a 2-year deal. Looks like it is same again for the Kiwis Series next year.
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From the SMH:
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/set- ... 1novz.html
Second paragraph - Nigel Wood stating that there is no vacancy for the England job and McNamara is 1 year into a 2-year deal. Looks like it is same again for the Kiwis Series next year.
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| Oh.
Any dates or venues announced for this second choice afterthought series against the Kiwis yet?
No?
No surprises there then.
I'm sure the powers that be will get round to it.
Eventually.
International RL - always an afterthought.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Oh.
Any dates or venues announced for this second choice afterthought series against the Kiwis yet?
No?
No surprises there then.
I'm sure the powers that be will get round to it.
Eventually.
International RL - always an afterthought.'"
Sad but true. Any organisation worth its salt would be putting them on sale the Monday after the Kiwis win. Sadly, ours can only handle one competition at a time. Sometime in March would be about right. Let's get the World Club 'Friendlies' out of the way first.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Oh.
Any dates or venues announced for this second choice afterthought series against the Kiwis yet?
No?
No surprises there then.
I'm sure the powers that be will get round to it.
Eventually.
International RL - always an afterthought.'"
You are of course very right. Now how about you go back to your Rugby Union board, now you have had your say.
No? Didn't think so. don't believe a single troll ever changed the world, let alone changed anyone's view on here. You remind me very much of Dutoni. Are you related?
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| Quote ="Shoe Shine Johnny"Sad but true. Any organisation worth its salt would be putting them on sale the Monday after the Kiwis win. Sadly, ours can only handle one competition at a time. Sometime in March would be about right. Let's get the World Club 'Friendlies' out of the way first.'"
There's some far more important Moonie Weekend fixtures to organise and announce first!
An announcement in March confirming international dates and venues is a reasonable guesstimate, though I wouldn't rule out an announcement as late as May immediately after the conclusion of the Moonie Weekend.
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| Retaining Steven McNamara was a good decision. He has introduced an exciting brand of rugby league into the England team this tournament, with rapid backline passing moves replacing the boring one off the ruck barging runs that achieve nothing.
He must have been inspired by watching the New Zealand Warriors, as well as the Sydney Roosters, play in the NRL. I do hope that he can improve his team selections now, and make James Roby and Darryl Clarke the alternating hookers, while giving the dynamic Elliot Whitehead real game time in the second row. Hopefully Jack Reed will also be available next year, to partner Daniel Sarginson in the centres. If those selection choices are made by Steven McNamara, then I am confident that England can be very competitive against a rampant New Zealand in 2015.
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| Good decision to keep McBanana as its too late to bring in an alternative coach. There where just a couple of positions that needed looking at, we can compete but we need a winning mentality, unfortunately you need to win big games for that, we are not far off but we need a couple of players to step up further to provide some inspiration for the rest of the team.
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| Id have to say that was the best kick and chase game Ive seen from England in many years. We normally give up loads of field position to poor kicks.
He needs to get some good results in the NZ series if he is to stay around for the RLWC. End of day it is a results game and we havent had results for a very long time. No trophies for trying!
on promotion, I really hope thye start up an England supporters club and book out one end to it at each ground. Get everyone in white and lets create some atmosphere. England Crusade!
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| Quote ="Shoe Shine Johnny"Sad but true. Any organisation worth its salt would be putting them on sale the Monday after the Kiwis win. Sadly, ours can only handle one competition at a time. Sometime in March would be about right. Let's get the World Club 'Friendlies' out of the way first.'"
Do you really need to know where these games are going to be played a year in advance? Is knowing that really going to impact your social life and your travel arrangements? If it were the world cup I would agree but this a three game series - first game will be played 2 weeks after the GF and the subsequent 2 Saturdays.
They need to launch once the season has started and fans have got back into a rugby mentality - March would seem a good time. Six months should be ample time to successfully promote 3 games.
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| I can live with McNamara for another year but there should be an insistence that he gets some experienced help alongside him.
He should not have the sole rights to selection decisions left to him either.
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| Name the venues now then those that find reason to moan about them can get it out of their systems.
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| Huge advertisements for Moonie Magic tickets in both League Express and League Weekly this morning.
No dates or venues for the Kiwi Series and no tickets on offer. Why bother striking while the iron is hot and fans are still enthused by the international series just completed? Way too sensible an idea that is.
And there you have it folks. That's how important international RL really is according to those who run the game in this country. It's over for another year. Back to being just an inconvenient afterthought, a dish best served cold and wet during the off-season.
When hardly anyone outside the game takes any interest in the Kiwi Series next year, let's blame Australia, or the national media, or the BBC or that dastardly Rugby Union who are out to get us at every opportunity. BOOOOOOOOO!!!
Now listen up Moonies! You are now ordered to forget about international RL. It's no longer important. It never was.
Get your @rses up to Newcastle in May for the Moonie Weekend. There's lots of special offers on tickets... a fiver off here, a groupon voucher deal off there... Cas V Wakey to round the mass wedding off... lovely jubbly.
GREATEST GAME... blah, blah, blah.
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| We'll beat NZ in the series.
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"We'll beat NZ in the series.'"
Possibly.
The Kiwis don't always travel that well to the UK and have struggled on recent tours.
OTOH, England or GB haven't been able to buy a win against the Kiwis down under throughout the entire SL era. Played 10, Lost 10 is their record.
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| Quote ="William Eve"There's some far more important Moonie Weekend fixtures to organise and announce first!
An announcement in March confirming international dates and venues is a reasonable guesstimate, though I wouldn't rule out an announcement as late as May immediately after the conclusion of the Moonie Weekend.'"
They've already said that details will be announced in November. November hasn't finished yet.
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| The matches will take place on the 24th and 31st of October and the 7th of November.
If tickets were available now how many would they realistically sell before New Year when their target audience (mostly) will have/be buying club ST/shirts as well as other Xmas expenses? For games that don't take place for nearly a year I doubt they'd be an urgency from fans to get them right away.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Id have to say that was the best kick and chase game Ive seen from England in many years. We normally give up loads of field position to poor kicks.
He needs to get some good results in the NZ series if he is to stay around for the RLWC. End of day it is a results game and we havent had results for a very long time. No trophies for trying!
on promotion, I really hope thye start up an England supporters club and book out one end to it at each ground. Get everyone in white and lets create some atmosphere. England Crusade!'"
I think he's steering us in the right direction. Whether he can deliver the final product is debateable.
One thing I seriously hope is he stops picking players on past performances.
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| You could put Wayne Bennett in the job but England will never win anything as long as the Kiwis and Kangaroos are still playing international footy.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Do you really need to know where these games are going to be played a year in advance? Is knowing that really going to impact your social life and your travel arrangements? If it were the world cup I would agree but this a three game series - first game will be played 2 weeks after the GF and the subsequent 2 Saturdays.
They need to launch once the season has started and fans have got back into a rugby mentality - March would seem a good time. Six months should be ample time to successfully promote 3 games.'"
We can't all roll down the M62 when we feel like it. Some people would need to book flights, accommodation and plan time off. I had to sit at home watching the 4 Nations thanks to the decision to release fixtures for a tour to Aus/NZ in May. I just couldn't commit without knowing the dates/fixtures. I'm sure I'm not the only one. It will cost me around £250 to attend each test - so yes - I do need to know.
The Wembley test also needs a 12-month lead in. If they want to get anywhere near 50k they need concerted marketing over a period of time. Sadly, RL fans just won't turn up to things without a massive push. I can't believe I'm agreeing with William but we are all talking about the 4N and Kiwis now! Not the sodding Magic weekend.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"The matches will take place on the 24th and 31st of October and the 7th of November.
If tickets were available now how many would they realistically sell before New Year when their target audience (mostly) will have/be buying club ST/shirts as well as other Xmas expenses? For games that don't take place for nearly a year I doubt they'd be an urgency from fans to get them right away.'"
Their target audience for the Wembley test would be those tens of thousands of non-heartland fans who attended the Semi-Final. I have never been in a RL crowd with so many non-northern voices. They won't be buying season tickets but they will be buying and looking for offers. This just shows how narrow-minded we have become.
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| Good decision, if we do lose this next series on home soil then its time to go but for now i can see progress... this will be the time for us to do the business no more 'just failed'
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| Wonder how many of the NRL-based players for both countries will suddenly find their clubs protesting that they need off-season surgery immediately after the NRL Grand Final?
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| Another series of agonising disappointment is in store then.
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| Quote ="Hillsborough Lad"They've already said that details will be announced in November. November hasn't finished yet.'"
=#FF0000*** IT'S NOW DECEMBER ALERT ***
I'm guessing November (just like International RL) is just another afterthought.
Joke sport run by clowns, supported by morons.
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| Quote ="William Eve"=#FF0000*** IT'S NOW DECEMBER ALERT ***
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'King Hell, did you mark your diary?
And, really, could you not have waited until the morning before posting this? WOW.
I heard it was to be announced before the end of the year, not November, so see you on Jan 1st at 12.01am. No doubt you'll be online.
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