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| Just read it - think we knew all this already except for what they've called it all?
'the Million Pound Game'
Also championship shield seems ridiculous - Well done on finishing 5th! Do you need a fake incentive for that group of 8 other than avoid relegation? Maybe so...
I do like that Super League is effectively top 4 playoff - 1v4 and 2v3 then Grand final. Great.
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| [i"At this stage it is intended that the Summer Bash and one match from every week of the Qualifiers will be broadcast live."[/i
Slightly disappointing that there won't be ANY weekly games from the Championship on tv. Only the weekend in Blackpool and some of the playoff games are to be shown.
Although it does say 'live', so I suppose there is still some scope for pre-recorded games to be shown.
It's still a backward step from when the champ games were on premier sports, it almost feels like Sky have bought the rights to the championship but then aren't bothering to do anything with it?
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| The new Challenge Cup structure is interesting. Top 8 in SL joining at round of 16 now instead of at round of 32
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| Quote ="FoxyRhino"The new Challenge Cup structure is interesting. Top 8 in SL joining at round of 16 now instead of at round of 32'"
Not a fan of this. The RFL are going to end up saturating the big games in their quest to make very game count. Whoever finishes in top 8 next year will get huge advantages for seasons to come.
Cannot believe dual reg will still be in effect next year! It's a farce now. It's opened to being abused unless the RFL are tight on it.
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| Quote ="The Doghead"www.superleague.co.uk/2015_a_new_era
save it to your hard drive.'"
But the new structure as not been completely finalized, they have not yet decided which points scoring system is going to be implemented.
Also the 'summer bash' for the championship teams according to the link will only feature 3 matches each day, therefore 2 x championship clubs will not be part of the 'summer bash'. Just a typical amateurish press release by the RFL.
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| Quote ="Fieldheadrhino"
Also the 'summer bash' for the championship teams according to the link will only feature 3 matches each day, therefore 2 x championship clubs will not be part of the 'summer bash'. Just a typical amateurish press release by the RFL.'"
There will only be 12 championship sides next year...
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| Quote ="Nothus"[i"At this stage it is intended that the Summer Bash and one match from every week of the Qualifiers will be broadcast live."[/i
Slightly disappointing that there won't be ANY weekly games from the Championship on tv. Only the weekend in Blackpool and some of the playoff games are to be shown.
Although it does say 'live', so I suppose there is still some scope for pre-recorded games to be shown.
It's still a backward step from when the champ games were on premier sports, it almost feels like Sky have bought the rights to the championship but then aren't bothering to do anything with it?'"
That was my first reaction to the document too. I might have misinterpreted previous statements but I had kind of got the idea that we would have no Championship games bar the Grand Final this year, but Championship TV coverage would make a blazing return in 2015. That appears not to be the case, in which case it's extremely disappointing. I had thought the plan was to increase the profile of the Championship and let viewers get to know the teams/personalities, but that seems not to be the case.
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| When the bottom four teams enter the Challenge Cup, what will the Top 8 do as I presume the last 16 match will be before the split. i.e. cant fit Last 16, QF and SF all between split and the final???? (Unless the plan is to play Last 16, QF and SF in a three week block in late July/ early Aug?)
That would be mad, as get knocked out in Last 16 and rest for two weeks
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| So Hull might have a chance of coming top for once in the Qualifiers next season?
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| To answer my own point. Play the R5 game after Easter programme (maybe even allow a Top 8 clash to be moved to that weekend if clubs agree). Play one game a week, means 1 extra week to the season? Start last week in Jan/ first week in Feb and run through to 2 week in Oct
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| If the SL were to finish today, then:
Widnes in 8th trail Cas in 4th by 8 points. Then then play each team above them once, and, since their existing points transfer over to the "new" 8 team table, they'd have to overall this 8 points deficit (and in reality exceed it considerably) to have any chance of finishing in the top 4 and qualifying for the SL play off semi finals.
Which means, to me, they are actually worse off than under the current PO system, and are playing 7 more meaningless games.
NB - Widnes are just being used to illustate my point (based on the current table) and its no way a personal slight on that club.
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| Quote The changes to the structure of the competitions will ensure that every minute, of every match, in every competition matters'"
Except when the bottom team/s realise they can no longer make the top eight so rest all their players in preparation to give their all in ensuring they have every opportunity of retaining their SL place. Equally, should a championship team be far enough in front of fifth position they will also rest their key players.
Effectively Trinity might as well rest their players all season and come out firing in the last seven games.
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| Quote ="shinymcshine"If the SL were to finish today, then:
Widnes in 8th trail Cas in 4th by 8 points. Then then play each team above them once, and, since their existing points transfer over to the "new" 8 team table, they'd have to overall this 8 points deficit (and in reality exceed it considerably) to have any chance of finishing in the top 4 and qualifying for the SL play off semi finals.
Which means, to me, they are actually worse off than under the current PO system, and are playing 7 more meaningless games.
NB - Widnes are just being used to illustate my point (based on the current table) and its no way a personal slight on that club.'"
It's basically just a league structure with the top 4 competing for a right to go to the grand final.
So yes, they'd be cosmetically worse off (as come one, they wont have a chance this year either) but there would be more emphasis on doing better in the regular season. Isn't that what people wanted?
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| Oh, and the non-fed allowance, is there going to be parity between the divisions?
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| I particularly like the fact that the two teams who finish ninth & tenth in S.L after the regular rounds are rewarded with four home ties in the Super 8s.
Ha ha, rewarded for finishing ninth or tenth.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"I particularly like the fact that the two teams who finish ninth & tenth in S.L after the regular rounds are rewarded with four home ties in the Super 8s.
Ha ha, rewarded for finishing ninth or tenth.'"
They have finished ahead of 11th and 12th placed teams so why not?
They can still be relegated unlike 8 and higher so not that great.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"They have finished ahead of 11th and 12th placed teams so why not?
They can still be relegated unlike 8 and higher so not that great.'"
Because the top four teams from the Championship should get the extra home game, as a reward for finishing in the top four.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Except when the bottom team/s realise they can no longer make the top eight so rest all their players in preparation to give their all in ensuring they have every opportunity of retaining their SL place. Equally, should a championship team be far enough in front of fifth position they will also rest their key players.
Effectively Trinity might as well rest their players all season and come out firing in the last seven games.'"
This is where i think the system will fall down.
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"This is where i think the system will fall down.'"
In both examples, that's the benefit of doing well enough in the regular season to ensure you can afford to do that?
I fail to see the issue.
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| Quote ="LeedsDave"In both examples, that's the benefit of doing well enough in the regular season to ensure you can afford to do that?
I fail to see the issue.'"
Im sure for the first half of the season all clubs will be going full out to get top 8 but once the top 8 starts to become clearly out of realistic reach for the 3/4 clubs cut adrift (and this could quite easily be sorted with 8-10 games to play) then watch those sides start to turn their focus to the second phase and we will see some real drubbings.
just a hunch.we will see
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| I just give up, it's a farcical system. Another RL gimmick that will last 3-5 years at most hate to be negative but just don't get it, and if I don't how will casual fans and outsiders get it.
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| The only good thing is this is RL so give it a few years and we will have some other new innovative structure that will supposedly sort the games problems out.
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| Plus as a fan if a successful club all we have to do is scrape into the 8 and then play from there. May as well only start going to games after the split as Many fans of the over top 3-4 clubs.
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| Seems somewhat unfair that there is a massive salary cap difference. How are teams in the mid eight going to compete against sides with 00,000's of pounds more to spend on the squad?
1mill v 1.9mill, hmmm level playing field then?
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