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Can anyone explain why the current situation with London Broncos doesn't result in them losing their franchise?
No ground
Virtually no coaching staff - no medical staff
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Approx 1/2 a squad still on the books
Rumours of wage arrears of 2 months+ to some players that are out of contract/leaving
How much evidence does the RFL need to strip them of their franchise licence?
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Wages arrears of 2 months+ to multiple players that are out of contract or are leaving'"
Want to provide evidence to support this statement |
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A friend spoke to 2 of their players today - one has had to find casual work to pay the bills - disgraceful if true
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| Quote ="Munchkin007"A friend spoke to 2 of their players today - one has had to find casual work to pay the bills - disgraceful if true'"
So... No then? |
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| Quote ="Munchkin007"A friend spoke to 2 of their players today - one has had to find casual work to pay the bills - disgraceful if true'"
It's all true unfortunately. I spotted Dan Sarginson & Kieran Dixon today and took this snap;
[url=http://s591.photobucket.com/user/craigies6pack/media/LondonBroncos_zps4a95f7cb.jpg.html  [/url |
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| Quote ="Munchkin007"How much evidence does the RFL need to strip them of their franchise licence?'"
Nothing more than your post. 
I have typed a copy of it up and faxed it to red hall, the inland revenue, the commons select committee and the Dalai Lama.
No doubt they will be stripped of all 388 competition points over the last 18 years and any remaining players will be divided amongst the Championship Clubs to use as tackle bags or in the case of Halifax, sex toys.
The only saving grace they have is that they are debt free, have never finished last or in a relegation position and haven't actually broken any rules or regulations, but I doubt that will sway his holiness the Dalai Lama when it comes to handing down their punishment  |
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Maybe the rfl knows how poor the clubs management is so doesn't want to throw good money after bad? Or maybe they know London isn't as critical to the success of SL as some like to think? Or maybe the rfl just doesn't have the funds to allocate more to one club?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Maybe the rfl knows how poor the clubs management is so doesn't want to throw good money after bad? Or maybe they know London isn't as critical to the success of SL as some like to think? Or maybe the rfl just doesn't have the funds to allocate more to one club?'"
It's out of their hands now.....the Dalai Lama holds the Broncos future in his hands now |
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I don't know if you noticed, but as of next year, all teams have lost their "franchise". If they have no team, no money, etc, etc they will no doubt end up in the bottom two next year and they cannot be saved anymore.
My only hope is they drop down, sort out a permanent place to play, get their act together, find a rich backer (Koucash style) and get promoted back into the Super League in a much better state than they are now. I think a strong London team would be good for Super League, but no point if they are just bottom of the table whipping boys. Winning teams get new fans, losing teams just depress current fans not win new ones.
Also, I would give them (if financially sustainable) a higher salary cap than the rest of Super League due to the ridiculous cost of living in London.
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Also, I would give them (if financially sustainable) a higher salary cap than the rest of Super League due to the ridiculous cost of living in London.'"
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Didn't they receive a licence for 3 years? Why would it be revoked earlier than this period?
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| Quote ="gutterfax"I've heard of people being burnt at the stake for heresy.....watch your step.'"
Haha true though! It has been said they are already spending to the cap in recent years, either that is just grossly untrue, or being in London is rising the wage bill massively! |
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| Quote ="Him"Didn't they receive a licence for 3 years? Why would it be revoked earlier than this period?'"
because Munchkin007, who joined this site in 2007 decided to use his 13th post to ask for it to happen!
I have received a Tweet from the Dalai Lama saying he is taking the request for London's expulsion under advisement from Pak Pong-ju who apparently is a big St Helens fan with a soft spot for Leigh Centurions.
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Also, I would give them (if financially sustainable) a higher salary cap than the rest of Super League due to the ridiculous cost of living in London.'"
You mean like the 10% one that already exists for them?
In recognition of the higher living costs for London Broncos players due to their location a 10% London cost of living weighting allowance is applied to the Club’s maximum aggregate First Tier Liability (£1.65m in 2013) is available in addition to the Elite Representative Squad dispensation, subject to the combined value of both allowances being capped at the 10% weighting allowance.
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Also, I would give them (if financially sustainable) a higher salary cap than the rest of Super League due to the ridiculous cost of living in London.'"
You mean like the 10% one that already exists for them?
In recognition of the higher living costs for London Broncos players due to their location a 10% London cost of living weighting allowance is applied to the Club’s maximum aggregate First Tier Liability (£1.65m in 2013) is available in addition to the Elite Representative Squad dispensation, subject to the combined value of both allowances being capped at the 10% weighting allowance.
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In recognition of the higher living costs for London Broncos players due to their location a 10% London cost of living weighting allowance is applied to the Club’s maximum aggregate First Tier Liability (£1.65m in 2013) is available in addition to the Elite Representative Squad dispensation, subject to the combined value of both allowances being capped at the 10% weighting allowance.
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1'"
I rent out one of my properties, a 1 bedroom maisonette in Brentford beside a busy railway line for ₤1,365 pcm. Brentford, we have been told isn't a very nice area and is a minimum of 35 minutes away from the centre of London by public transport or an hour by car in rush hour.
A quick glance at the property market up north shows this
[urlhttp://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-40280155.html[/url
₤630 a week for a fully serviced, fully furnished apartment in the centre of Hull.....overlooking the new dockside developments .....sy or what? 
My little flat in dingy Brentford commands twice the rent a flat in dockside Hull, yet the RFL reckon London is 10% more expensive
JB, you may have left East Hull but you somehow managed to get your norvun bias through customs....well done you  |
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In recognition of the higher living costs for London Broncos players due to their location a 10% London cost of living weighting allowance is applied to the Club’s maximum aggregate First Tier Liability (£1.65m in 2013) is available in addition to the Elite Representative Squad dispensation, subject to the combined value of both allowances being capped at the 10% weighting allowance.
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1'"
I rent out one of my properties, a 1 bedroom maisonette in Brentford beside a busy railway line for ₤1,365 pcm. Brentford, we have been told isn't a very nice area and is a minimum of 35 minutes away from the centre of London by public transport or an hour by car in rush hour.
A quick glance at the property market up north shows this
[urlhttp://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-40280155.html[/url
₤630 a week for a fully serviced, fully furnished apartment in the centre of Hull.....overlooking the new dockside developments .....sy or what?
My little flat in dingy Brentford commands twice the rent a flat in dockside Hull, yet the RFL reckon London is 10% more expensive
JB, you may have left East Hull but you somehow managed to get your norvun bias through customs....well done you
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I rent out one of my properties, a 1 bedroom maisonette in Brentford beside a busy railway line for [u₤1,365 pcm[/u. Brentford, we have been told isn't a very nice area and is a minimum of 35 minutes away from the centre of London by public transport or an hour by car in rush hour.
A quick glance at the property market up north shows this
[urlhttp://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-40280155.html[/url
[u₤630 a week[/u for a fully serviced, fully furnished apartment in the centre of Hull.....overlooking the new dockside developments .....sy or what?
My little flat in dingy Brentford commands twice the rent a flat in dockside Hull, yet the RFL reckon London is 10% more expensive
JB, you may have left East Hull but you somehow managed to get your norvun bias through customs....well done you
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| Quote ="Him"Didn't they receive a licence for 3 years? Why would it be revoked earlier than this period?'"
I think you'll find that when the current licences were issued the RFL said that they could be revoked early if the clubs didn't meet the criteria. Given all that's happened with us, Bradford etc. since then, I suspect it's been quietly forgotten about  |
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| Quote ="gutterfax"My little flat in dingy Brentford commands twice the rent a flat in dockside Hull, yet the RFL reckon London is 10% more expensive
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Strictly speaking your flat is about half the cost of the one in Hull, given that you're pricing pcm and the Hull flat is pw. Having said that a fully serviced docklands flat in London would be considerably more than the one in Hull. So your underlying point is sound even if the example isn't. |
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All other points aside, if we don't actually have a squad or a ground, the RFL won't really need to revoke our license, we can't really invite the other teams round for a game down the local park against whoever we can rope in off the streets that day.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"£630 [ia week[/i is actually about double £1365 pc[um[/u, innit?'"
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"
£630 [ia week[/i is actually about double £1365 pc[um[/u, innit?'"
Excellent. |
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"£630 [ia week[/i is actually about double £1365 pc[um[/u, innit?'"
Ha quality. Great spot! |
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