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| Feel there was no need for finch to slag super league off. I agree that there is some not very modern stadiums in super league but a lot of them will be improved and as well they are classic rugby stadiums which are nice to see from time to time IMO. Why should he have a right to drag super league down, i mean what do you expect when the weather over here is as bad as it is, the ground is bound to be a bit bad on surface. And as for the stadiums like craven park well the NRL have got a few stadiums that are not the most modern like Campbelltown Stadium [if they still use it Leichhardt Oval, Penrith Stadium to name a few. Also cant believe that he turned down around 260,000 to stay at wigan which was so much more than melbourne are offering him now.
Which stadiums though does everyone think he is on about though?
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| He's right though. Some of our grounds, while they retain their "character", are crumbling wrecks. I love the old grounds, I loved Central Park, Knowsley Road and The Willows - but some of them are well past their time.
Finch also goes on to big up the atmosphere, the fans, the songs, etc of SL. He's not slagging it off, just some of the crappy grounds.
I don't see anything wrong with his comments. He's entitled to an opinion.
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| Quote ="Cleck Bulls"Feel there was no need for finch to slag super league off. I agree that there is some not very modern stadiums in super league but a lot of them will be improved and as well they are classic rugby stadiums which are nice to see from time to time IMO. Why should he have a right to drag super league down, i mean what do you expect when the weather over here is as bad as it is, the ground is bound to be a bit bad on surface. And as for the stadiums like craven park well the NRL have got a few stadiums that are not the most modern like Campbelltown Stadium [if they still use it Leichhardt Oval, Penrith Stadium to name a few. Also cant believe that he turned down around 260,000 to stay at wigan which was so much more than melbourne are offering him now.
Which stadiums though does everyone think he is on about though?'"
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| Hmm Melbourne or Wigan... Tough choice
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| Quote ="Starbug"Odsal
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"I think you'll find that's the Provident Stadium, now.'"
Not very ' Iconic ' that is it
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| Quote ="Cleck Bulls"Feel there was no need for finch to slag super league off. I agree that there is some not very modern stadiums in super league but a lot of them will be improved and as well they are classic rugby stadiums which are nice to see from time to time IMO. Why should he have a right to drag super league down, i mean what do you expect when the weather over here is as bad as it is, the ground is bound to be a bit bad on surface. And as for the stadiums like craven park well the NRL have got a few stadiums that are not the most modern like Campbelltown Stadium [if they still use it Leichhardt Oval, Penrith Stadium to name a few. Also cant believe that he turned down around 260,000 to stay at wigan which was so much more than melbourne are offering him now.
Which stadiums though does everyone think he is on about though?'"
Got a link to the interview??
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| Give me 10k at craven park over 25k at the soulless ANZ and any day of the week!
Shark park, Penrith, leichardt, dairy farmers, Campbeltown, brookvale. People in glass houses or what!
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| Quote ="Cleck Bulls"Feel there was no need for finch to slag super league off. I agree that there is some not very modern stadiums in super league but a lot of them will be improved and as well they are classic rugby stadiums which are nice to see from time to time IMO. Why should he have a right to drag super league down, i mean what do you expect when the weather over here is as bad as it is, the ground is bound to be a bit bad on surface. And as for the stadiums like craven park well the NRL have got a few stadiums that are not the most modern like Campbelltown Stadium [if they still use it Leichhardt Oval, Penrith Stadium to name a few. Also cant believe that he turned down around 260,000 to stay at wigan which was so much more than melbourne are offering him now.
Which stadiums though does everyone think he is on about though?'"
Why mention Craven Park in this. Our pitch is one of the best in the league whilst we are currently building a state of the art stand costing a total of £8m.
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| Quote ="Easty"Why mention Craven Park in this. Our pitch is one of the best in the league whilst we are currently building an £8m stand.'"
It doesnt say craven park does it? only another poster has and to be fair, none of the structure was up for the new stand whilst he was here playing, before that it was a poor ground with he south stand and crumbling golf stand!
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| Funny, i thought brett finch was supposed to be a top class aussie half, i've been really dispapointed since he came over. i hadn't even noticed he'd gone.
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| Quote ="Cleck Bulls"Feel there was no need for finch to slag super league off. I agree that there is some not very modern stadiums in super league but a lot of them will be improved and as well they are classic rugby stadiums which are nice to see from time to time IMO. Why should he have a right to drag super league down, i mean what do you expect when the weather over here is as bad as it is, the ground is bound to be a bit bad on surface. And as for the stadiums like craven park well the NRL have got a few stadiums that are not the most modern like Campbelltown Stadium [if they still use it Leichhardt Oval, Penrith Stadium to name a few. Also cant believe that he turned down around 260,000 to stay at wigan which was so much more than melbourne are offering him now.
Which stadiums though does everyone think he is on about though?'"
brett finch is talking out the back of his head...
widnes -modern stadium - 4g pitch
wigan - modern stadium - pitch fine
warrigton - modern stadium - pitch fine
st helens - modern stadium - pitch fine
salford - modern stadium - pitch fine
london - modern stadium - pitch fine
huddersfield - modern stadium - pitch fine
hull fc - modern stadium - pitch ok..
hull kr - being redeveloped - pitch fine
catalan - being redeveloped - pitch fine
leeds - historic stadium,plans to upgrade south stand, pitch best in the universe....apparently
bradford -historic stadium,needs upgrading - pitch abit dodgy
wakefield & castleford are letting super league down at the minute..but both are actively seeking to change that....
so to summarize........brett finch is a knob
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"brett finch is talking out the back of his head...
widnes -modern stadium - 4g pitch
wigan - modern stadium - pitch fine
warrigton - modern stadium - pitch fine
st helens - modern stadium - pitch fine
salford - modern stadium - pitch fine
london - modern stadium - pitch fine
huddersfield - modern stadium - pitch fine
hull fc - modern stadium - pitch ok..
hull kr - being redeveloped - pitch fine
catalan - being redeveloped - pitch fine
leeds - historic stadium,plans to upgrade south stand, pitch best in the universe....apparently
bradford -historic stadium,needs upgrading - pitch abit dodgy
wakefield & castleford are letting super league down at the minute..but both are actively seeking to change that....
so to summarize........brett finch is a knob'"
got agree i know it was a few years ago i went to oz but moast of the playses we went to to watch rugby league were not up to standard and we have a relative their and he says not all of the have got better in fact he said most are dumps
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| So he played in sub standard stadia at Bradford, HKR, Cas, Wakey and Cats. Thats a fair chunk of pooholes for our premier comp.
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| SL
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3 avg
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7 Avg (nq, auck, win,oki,anz (due to emptiness), parra, Canb,
5 poor (cron, Penrith, manly, leichardt, Campbell,
Not exactly brimming with great grounds in oz!
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| What utter ing drivel JB.
Have you been to all the grounds? Why are you using a different marking system for NRL then your using for SL?
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| any stadium with "hills" should be classed as poor jb
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| the playing surfaces are Cas & Wakey are quality. Albeit the actual grounds aint paradise.
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| No I've not been to all grounds, care to suggest which you disagree with Sheldon?
For me the basics of a avg ground would be, mainly covered seats, 20k+ capacity, no hills (except nq where it is nice enough weather) 4 sides and decent food facilities. I've actually been generous with some, personally having been to Canberra I consider it a dog of a ground for the weather they get. Auckland is another ground that could easily be classed as poor but is saved by that massive decent stand. Nq is a grass hill and temp scaffolding stands mostly, generally I've been generous!
NRL and SL are different sized comps, different $ value therefore different expectations of facilities, especially capacity needs.
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| Quote ="cravenpark1"got agree i know it was a few years ago i went to oz but moast of the playses we went to to watch rugby league were not up to standard and we have a relative their and he says not all of the have got better in fact he said most are dumps'"
This hurts my head, any possibility you could re-type this using the English language?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"No I've not been to all grounds, care to suggest which you disagree with Sheldon?
For me the basics of a avg ground would be, mainly covered seats, 20k+ capacity, no hills (except nq where it is nice enough weather) 4 sides and decent food facilities. I've actually been generous with some, personally having been to Canberra I consider it a dog of a ground for the weather they get. Auckland is another ground that could easily be classed as poor but is saved by that massive decent stand. Nq is a grass hill and temp scaffolding stands mostly, generally I've been generous!
NRL and SL are different sized comps, different $ value therefore different expectations of facilities, especially capacity needs.'"
So essentially as the criteria were different, you weren't really making any meaningful comparison between the NRL and ESL for grounds...
We suffer quite badly on this criteria tbh, though we're improving (finally).
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| Quote ="Towns88"the playing surfaces are Cas & Wakey are quality. Albeit the actual grounds aint paradise.'"
Cas QUALITY !!!!
A pitch that is too short and uneven is quality
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| Quote ="Bovrick"So essentially as the criteria were different, you weren't really making any meaningful comparison between the NRL and ESL for grounds...
We suffer quite badly on this criteria tbh, though we're improving (finally).'"
Not at all, it's about being fit for purpose. An NRL player was slating the condition of SL grounds, I am merely pointing out the there are plenty of grounds in the NRL that are hardly state of the art.
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"brett finch is talking out the back of his head...
widnes -modern stadium - 4g pitch
wigan - modern stadium - pitch fine
warrigton - modern stadium - pitch fine
st helens - modern stadium - pitch fine
salford - modern stadium - pitch fine
london - modern stadium - pitch fine
huddersfield - modern stadium - pitch fine
hull fc - modern stadium - pitch ok..
hull kr - being redeveloped - pitch fine
catalan - being redeveloped - pitch fine
leeds - historic stadium,plans to upgrade south stand, pitch best in the universe....apparently
bradford -historic stadium,needs upgrading - pitch abit dodgy
wakefield & castleford are letting super league down at the minute..but both are actively seeking to change that....
so to summarize........brett finch is a knob'"
So to summarise, he was correct in his statement "You play in some unbelievable stadiums like Wembley and then you play at others that are like cow paddocks".
Calling a stadium 'historic' or 'being redeveloped' does not change the fact it's a dump.
The fact is, some grounds are top notch, some are dumps. That's all he said.
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| Maybe he's focusing on the stadiums because this year at Melbourne he'll be sat on the bench in a place he can enjoy them?
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