As its dead in the water.

It means if you can make the play offs, you can win the competition, however there are too many teams in the play offs IMO, 6 should be the most

I'm a season ticket holder at a top 4 side. Encourage me to buy a season ticket next season to watch 13 friendlies?

I know my team will make the top 8 before we start so whats the point in me buying one? should i just wait for September to start going like the Leeds club do????

Were you under some pretence that the play offs couldn't be won by a team outside the top two?

This has been on the cards for years. And quite frankly, the play offs are great for the game. Having a big payday at old trafford is a great way to sign off the season.

As long as every team knows at the start of the season what the score is fair enough. And well done to Leeds. Worthy champions in my book. Cracking performance, great team.

Unless you've got a squad of players of the calabre that leeds have had for the last two season then ther will never ever be a superleague grand final winner from fifth.EVER.

Its still 27 friendlies that eventually people will cotton onto and stop going. They will realise their players suddenly don't have 'that edge' that makes them play better and give us outstanding games in the regular season. Why people are happy for this continue i will never know.

What if every GF winner in the future is too good to finish 5th? I bet there are not many teams in history that have become Champions with a 58% winning record throughout the season? Leeds could statistically be the worst Champions of all time. Again it doesn't encorage floating fans to become Season Ticket holders.

Halifax won it from 7th and Dewsbury have won it from 8th. Dewsbury winning it from 8th caused so much uproar the RFL changed the rules so the best team from start to finish became the Champions and not the playoff winners.

Your missing the reality of the situation Dougy ,this happened a few yrs ago.
Bradford and huddersfild selling season tickets for peanuts,wigan St holders bringing 6 mates for £30..

Everybody else hold your hands up and tell us what ridiculous deals your clubs are doing to distort attendance figures.

Try watching Championship RL, if you think games dont have any meaning

Not Super league europe LTD though Dougy

I'm not trying to be clever - i'm worried about the future of the game.
I don't think there was a single oustanding game between 'the big 4' this year in the regular season as they all know it doesn't matter. I want the RFL to do something to make it matter. What if all the big clubs 'did a Leeds' and didn't try for half the games? We would watch garbage for 27 games. You could argue it may have already set in this season.

LOL which were these games that Leeds weren't trying to win in the regular season, it's frankly ludicrous to suggest they picked which games to show up for. They were just inconsistent simple as that, the thing is they know how to play at this end of the season.

So you think the level of intensity in sl is of the nessarsary requirements?

You can't honestly believe that Leeds tried their best in every game? Surely they would have finished top if they had.

what would be interesting would be to see a league where the top team is declared the champions. That would give us a great regular season and a reason the buy a season ticket.

Not really. Following your logic, teams in the bottom half of the table wouldn't sell any season tickets. After all, why should they fund 27 "friendlies" when they stood no chance of being champions?

Why should we do away with the playoffs when it is the default position for how the rugby league champions are decided?
Is it ok for the 2nd placed team to win the Grand Final?

A team winning from low down the league and with lower win %age than Leeds doesn't seem to have ruined the NRL.
If you're that concerned then maybe you should implore the team you support to stop so regularly choking in the playoffs. Wigan got home advantage, a week off and the choice of who to play and still couldn't manage to beat such a "poor" team. If Wigan can't stand that intensity then they shouldn't be crowned champions.

Laughable post. Personally, I pay for my season ticket at London because I love rugby league. And I love watching games of professional rugby league. My team won't win the league but even though we had a terrible season I still had some brilliant afternoons when we picked up 2 points.

Clearly only winning interests you. Get a grip.

Not for the first time you've demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of sport generally and the Leeds club in particular. You appear totally ignorant of the amount of pressure the players were under during that disastrous midseason spell, the amount of abuse McDermott was, once again, getting, the discussions being had at the top of the club as to how to solve it, the repeated player heart to heart meetings discussing how to turn around the disastrous form.

You also completely ignore the fact that that hellish run totally ****ed up any thoughts Leeds might have had of gaming the system in their favour just as Wigan and Warrington did. Because it meant, once again, that Sinfield and Peacock just couldn't be rested because, unlike Shaun Wane, McDermott couldn't risk anything like that in any game as playoff qualification was constantly on the line.

Claiming in any way that anyone at Leeds planned or enjoyed the poor run, aimed to finish fifth or was pleased in any way with what happened in the regular season is typical Pie eating delusion. But then a fair proportion of your support base appears to have become completely unhinged in recent times so perhaps we shouldn't be surprised.

British mentality displayed to its fullest. Well done!

As Leeds season ticket holder I am frustrated at the form the team show during the regular season. It is not through lack of effort, Leeds don't have a very deep squad and injuries have a significant impact whereby injured players have to play when they sometimes shouldn't.

If I went to the games purely for the quality I would be even more disappointed, but I don't - rugby is a form of entertainment I meet my kids and we have a social evening together with the Rhinos as a backdrop. They give us a mutual interest and we all know it is not a matter of life and death it is a game.

Perhaps we need to market the game differently to get fans going to games for other reasons than seeing their team win, God forbid it ever got like football where hundreds of thousands of single men go into a decline every Saturday their team loses as they sacrificed everything in their life for an opportunity to watch a round ball being kicked around by a few highly paid parasites 40 times a year.

All teams know the rules at the start of the season, the fact the likes of Wigan left their best form back in June should not in any way detract from Leeds' achievement. Wane was out coached a lesson he will have all winter to ponder on as will Tony Smith who I'm sure thought all they had to do was turn up.

This is an outstanding side - to win 5 finals in 6 in a salary cap sport - you know Leeds adhere to the numbers unlike some of their opponents - is a staggering achievement. No matter what you think about the play off system you have to admire the nerve and the skill to be able to turn up that many times and win when it really matters - shame so many on here cannot recognise that.

What hellish run was that? By finishing 5th Leeds got to play the team who finished 8th, Wakefield, at home. Catalans, on the other hand, finished one place higher than Leeds in 4th, for which they were rewarded with an away fixture against the league leaders! In week 2 these teams meet each other but one has had a significantly more difficult fixture, away from home, than the other and has traveled from the south of France, to Wigan, then back again. People who can't see anything wrong with that sort of playoff system are deluding themselves imo.

I'm not saying that Leeds' path to the final was easy, but it certainly wasn't hellish and it wasn't the path that finishing 5th should force you to take, imo.

Can't argue with that. The system is what it is and Leeds have been the best at winning within that system.

First up, we can take nothing away from Leeds, who won the competetition according to the rules it was set up by.

Whether the competetion is set up correctly is another matter, and I'm pretty sure it's not, for the following reason:

RLs biggest challenge is, as it always has been in my living memory, media attention. From which follows sponsors, more fans, growth. The fact that we face clear bias isn't an excuse, as some suggest, to forget about it and accept defeat, rather it just increases the scale of the challenge in getting RL somewhere near the profile it deserves.

Here's the thing - its very hard to get attention without a steady stream of important games to keep interest up. If we only have one or two important games per year, no big media outlet will retain an RL reporter and even on the one day a year when League gets in the mainstream news, the fact that there's been no stories for a year means that people outside the game don't even know who the players are. It's like if I suddenly read a big piece about UK basketball's grand final ( presumably there is one ).

The most pressing thing RL's marketing needs to look at, is how to keep steady attention throughout a season. In this respect, a "Champions League", between the top fours of the NRL and SL, with group stages ( playing your two overseas away games in one trip, but otherwise fixtures spread out over months as in soccer) would be excellent.

Sadly, I think that's dreamland stuff. However in the mean time, the last thing we can afford is for the regular season to be reduced in importance. It's media suicide. Leeds have now twice in a row exposed the problem. Maybe its just end of season blues, but being honest I can't say I'm that enthusiastic about the new season...you see your team start to build what looks like an excellent playing unit, but those League points you get from a win don't matter all that much.

No offence but Champions should be the consistent team through the season and who are top.Imagine Liverpool winning champions tag from 5th?