Many players have weakened their reputations and others have improved a reputation in these playoffs -- both Super League and NRL

Here is the 23 man squad I would pick as of today:


FB: Sam Tomkins,

FB/CE: Zak Hardaker

WG: Ryan Hall, Tom Briscoe, Josh Charnley

CE: Jack Read, Kallum Watkins,

SO: Gareth Widdop, Kevin Sinfield

HB: Danny McGuire, Rangi Chase

LF: Sean O'Loughlin

LF/2R: Sam Burgess

2R: Gareth Ellis, Ben Westwood, Gareth Hock

PR: James Graham, Jamie Peacock, Eorl Crabtree, Luke Burgess, Chris Hill

HK: James Roby, Rob Burrow


Reserves/Standby: Michael Shenton, Leon Pryce, Adrian Morley,

This team will compete with Australia.

No to those + Peacock retired from international Rugby League already.

Burrow shouldn't be anywhere near the squad at hooker when there's Danny Houghton & Daryl Clark.



If by compete you mean lose by 40, I agree.

Why would Luke Burgess get in the squad now when he couldnt when at Leeds and winning Grand finals?

is it because he plays in the super dooper NRL now?

he has had a strong season in a top 4 NRL team, that's why.

A few of those players I wouldn't have in even if we were in the middle of a injury crisis.

I would select

FB: Tomkins, Hardaker

WG: Hall, Charnley

CE: Watkins, Reed

SO: Widdop

SH: Lomax

General back cover: Ratchford, Makinson

As of yet I am undecided who deserves the other HB role.

LF: Lockers

2R: Ellis, Westwood, Hock, S.Burgess

PR: Graham, Mossop, Hill, L.Burgess, (final prop place is still up for grabs, some good players around)

HK: Roby, McIllorum

players who I would never take:
Sinfield
JJB
Ablett
Tickle
Wilkin

even though i have gone to this effort, we really dont know. there could be a young player that comes from know where next season to grabs a squad place.

Hey, Im a Leeds and Luke Burgess fan and agree he has had a decent solid season in a top 4 side as you say.But IMO he is doing nothing more than he did in a Leeds Shirt and most rival fans would have laughed at the inclusion of him in an England squad a season ago.Obviously playing in the NRL for a season has turned him into a World Class International quality prop so i will wind my kneck in....

Based on the season he's just had, Luke Burgess should be a lock to be in the England squad now. He's improved vastly.

Here's my 23-man-er:

FB - Tomkins, Ratchford.
W - Briscoe, Charnley, Hall.
C - Atkins, Reed, Watkins.
HB - Widdop, Lomax, Pryce, Chase.

P - Burgess, Graham, Crabtree, Lynch, Hill.
H - Roby, Houghton.
BR - Westwood, Ellis, O'Loughlin, Hock.

Just a bit of fun init.

What about Manu?

Chrisy Heighington anyone?? NRL legend and proud englishman!

Bit of fun with squad numbers attached, also 23 depends if he's English next year or not.

1-Sam Tomkins
2-Ryan Hall
3-Jack Reed
4-Ryan Atkins
5-Tom Briscoe
6-Gareth Widdop
7-Rangi Chase
8-Sam Burgess
9-James Roby
10-James Graham
11-Ben Westwood
12-Gareth Ellis
13-Sean O'Loughlin
14-Danny Houghton
15-Adrian Morley
16-Chris Hill
17-Gareth Hock
18-Stefan Ratchford
19-Josh Charnley
20-Eorl Crabtree
21-Garreth Carvell
22-Ben Harrison
23-Willie Manu/Andy Lynch

Tomkins
Hall
Atkins
Watkins
Charnley
Widdop
Brough
Carvell
Roby
Graham
Ellis
Westwood
Burgess

Houghton
Hock
Mossop
Hill

Reserves: Hardacre, Reed, Ratchford, Briscoe, Crabtree, Morley, McClorum, L Burgess, O'Loughlin, Myler

Hall and Reed worked well on the right, would imagine moving to the left would help there partnership.

Right - Watkins and charnely

Backs:

Sam Tomkins, Josh Charnley (Wigan), Kallum Watkins, Ryan Hall, Zak Hardaker (Leeds), Jack Reed (Brisbane), Ryan Atkins, Chris Riley (Warrington)

Halves:

Gareth Widdop (Melbourne), Jonny Lomax (St Helens), Danny Brough (Huddersfield), Kevin Sinfield, Rob Burrow (Leeds), James Roby (St Helens, Captain)

Forwards:

Gareth Hock, Sean O'Loughlin (Wigan), Adrian Morley, Ben Westwood, Ben Harrison, Chris Hill (Warrington), James Graham (Canterbury), Sam Burgess (South Sydney), Gareth Ellis, Chris Heighington (Wests), Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield)

1 Tomkins
2 Charnley
3 Goulding
4 Reed
5 Hall
6 Widdop
7 Brough
8 Morley
9 Roby
10 Burgess
11 Hock
12 Westwood
13 Lockers

14 Graham
15 Hill
16 Lomax
17 Hardaker

1. Tomkins
2. Charnley
3. Atkins
4. Watkins
5. Hall
6. Chase
7. Brough
8. Burgess
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Manu
12. Westwood
13. Ellis

14. Sinfield
15. Hock
16. Mossop
17. Lynch

18. Carvell
19. O'Loughlin
20. Lomax
21. Crabtree
22. Briscoe
23. Hardaker

Widdop, Reed, Heighington all notably around there too. Could have likes of Hill and Larne Patrick; Josh Jones, Daryl Clark, Liam Watts, Joe Westerman, Scott Taylor, Yeaman, McIlorum, Danny Houghton, Tickle, Luke George, Luke Robinson, Kieran Dixon, Dan Sarginson and Craig Huby all around and knocking on the door too.

I think it's time to stop using the tried and tested likes of Wilkin, JJB, Morley and so forth.

Chris Riley over Tom Briscoe



There are 3 English wingers who are a cut above the rest and that is Briscoe, Hall and Charnley. If I were to pick the two, it would be Briscoe and Hall. Charnley is a top winger but plays in easily the best team in the league and has many walk in tries. Like I said he's very good but not as good as the other two.

Tomkins
Hall
Reed
Atkins
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
S. Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

Is my 13, squad members

Houghton
Lynch
Hock
L. Burgess
Watts
Hardaker
Hill
Watkins
Charnley
Farrell
Carvell
Ratchford

No doubt I've missed others.

anyone who leaves out Burrow is an idiot. The only better attacking runner in the northern hemisphere is Tomkins.

I'd go:-

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Kallum Watkins
4. Jack Reed
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Ben Westwood
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Lee Mossop
15. Chris Hill
16. Gareth Hock
17. Andy Lynch

Danny Houghton & Daryl Clark are both better hookers.

23 man squad:

Backs:
Tomkins, Hall, Reed, Atkins, Charnley, Briscoe, Hardaker

Halves:
Chase, Dobson, Brough

Hookers:
Roby, Houghton, Clark

Forwards:
Hill, Graham, S. Burgess, L. Burgess, Mossop, Manu, Ellis, Westwood, O'Loughlin, Crabtree

Tomkins
Hall
Reed
Atkins
Charnley
Chase
Dobson
Graham
Roby
S. Burgess
Ellis
Westwood
O'Loughlin

L. Burgess
Houghton
Crabtree
Manu

could be a dark horse if he has a great year at saints but alex walmsley he is a great talent give it 18 months him and chris hill will be english props with larne patrick and mossop

I'd throw Chris Green into that dark horse bracket too, maybe not next year but certainly in the future. Peter Gentle thinks very highly of him and he knows a thing or two about what makes an international player.

Mossop
Watts
Taylor
Green
Patrick
Hill

Along with the current young stars such as the Burgess brothers, LMS will be the forwards for the future of England RL.

1. Hardaker
2. Briscoe
3. Watkins
4. Reed
5. Hall
6. Tomkins
7. Brough

8. Graham
9. Roby
10. S. Burgess
11. Hock
12. Westwood
13. Ellis

14. Burrow
15. Hill
16. Manu
17. Mossop

1st Line-up:-
1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Ryan Atkins
4. Kallum Watkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Kevin Sinfield
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Ellis
12. Ben Westwood
13. Sean O'Loughlin
Bench:-
14. Rob Burrow
15. Eorl Crabtree
16. Gareth Hock
17. Lee Mossop

2nd Line-up:-
1. Zak Hardaker
2. Tom Briscoe
3. Michael Shenton
4. Darrell Goudling
5. Ben Jones-Bishop
6. Danny McGuire
7. Jonny Lomax
8. Gareth Carvell
9. Danny Houghton
10. Craig Huby
11. Elliot Whitehead
12. Danny Tickle
13. Jon Wilkin
Bench:-
14. Daryl Clark
15. Larne Patrick
16. Chris Hill
17. Kyle Amor

Team of young wildcard's:-
1. Greg Eden
2. Kieran Dixon
3. Josh Jones
4. Ben Crooks
5. Tom Makinson
6. Gareth O'Brien
7. Joe Mellor
8. Nathan Massey
9. Adam Milner
10. Scott Taylor
11. Chris Green
12. John Bateman
13. Stevie Ward
Bench:-
14. Paul McShane
15. Jonathan Walker
16. Tom Burgess
17. Liam Farrell