The double movement decision for the Carvell try was terrible. Textbook definition of double movement.

Yep, totally agree, ball carrying arm touches the ground, if an opposition player has his little finger on you, that's the end of the tackle.

Any one else not have a clue about the interpretation of the dragging into touch rule.

I thought the interpretation was that it just how the referee feels on the day?

I think the worst thing is that (recently at least) one team has gotten nearly every 50/50 call.

Shown again there by Briers knocking on and Silverwood didn't bring it back despite there being no advantage played.

Disgusting decision from Smith. Is it me or do Warrington play different rules when it comes to double movements. Silverwoods defintely trying to keep the Warrington crowd happy.

Be interesting if Westwood gets called up. Will it be the same 2 ban Ferriol got?

The game is being refereed in a different way from yesterdays game, where is the consistency?

50 50

Thats correct and with that comes "benefit of doubt" so for me its the right call.

Why wasn't that benefit of the doubt?

Carvell never even grounded the ball, it rolled off Grix's arm as well as it being a double movement.

Just watched it again and you're right. He puts the ball on Grix's arm then knocks on.

Double movement all day long,have the rules changed???

Didn't Ryan Hall get called for double movement yesterday?

Carvell's was deffo double movement and the benefit of the doubt (esp when Cudjoe's try was later ruled out with more doubt) was a terrible call

Not had a good day the VR, should stick to derbies, brilliant at those.

Can you explain why you think that it was a 50/50 decision?

Carvell's ball carrying arm is on the floor, the Huddersfield player touches him (tackle complete) and then Carvell flips over and puts the ball down. Baffling decision.

Who was the video ref, out of interest?

It was as clear cut a double movement as its possible to get

Cudjoes had more "benefit of doubt" to it than Carvells and wasnt given
Couldnt see the ball, no reason to not give it. BoD to Cudjoe

What IS the Video Ref for again?

Benefit of Doubt only comes into play when there is no clear reason to disallow a try. That does not include Ian Smith not being able to make up his mind on whether Carvell's "try" was the subject of a double movement or not. It certainly does come in to play in the Cudjoe instance because no one, not one person in the ground, watching on the TV or whatever could see a clear reason to disallow.

It is the failure to follow simple rules such as these that brings entirely justifiable but easily avoidable criticism on referees.

Silverwood only asked the video ref to check the grounding. The ball is down and then rolls over the defenders arm.

50/50 wouldn't have argued either way.

if you watch it full speed it is momentum that gets him over.

no hudds players were really complaining about it but if it was given no try i wouldn't of minded.

Think you need to look up the definition of momentum. I'm kinda certain it doesn't mean 'stop, roll over and then reach out'.

Didnt stop.

but he doesnt stop anyway it got given the result wasn't affected by it and like i say wouldn't have complained if it hadn't been given and the benefit of the doubt would have been against the grounding not the double movement so mr smith must of thought it was momentum.

I mentioned this on the HKR board the other week.

On the championship coverage the video refs have a live microphone so everyone at home can hear them go through their reasoning and thinking when they are making their decision.
It works rather well and instead of you thinking 'how has he come by that decision' you can see his thinking even if you don't agree with it.
It makes for a lot less heads scratching.

He doesn't have to stop. Ryan Hall didn't stop either on Saturday.

The ball carrying arm strikes the floor while a defender is in contact with the attacking player. The attacking player then lifts his arm from the floor and makes a distinct second movement to place the ball over the line.

It's as clear a double movement as you are ever going to see. I can understand now why they don't trust Ian Smith to be in the middle with a whistle any more if he can get simple decisions like that one wrong.