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| This french team looks pretty strong.With the game been played in france and france having 1 or 2 warm up games before hand with this team would be a good contest.
1 cyril stacul -catalan
2 dimitri pelo-canberra
3 jp baile-catalan
4 d peyreoux- gold coast titans
5 v duport-catalan
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7 t bosc-catalan
8 d ferriol - catalan
9 j rinaldi -london
10-r casty - catalan
11 g mounis- catalan
12 o elima- bulls
13 j baitieri-catalan
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14 e pelissier- catalan
15 j fakir - catalan
16 m simon- catalan
17 s raguin- catalan
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| Isn't Scott Dureau eligible for France next year?
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| Quote ="leek123"This french team looks pretty strong.With the game been played in france and france having 1 or 2 warm up games before hand with this team would be a good contest.
1 cyril stacul -catalan
2 dimitri pelo-canberra
3 jp baile-catalan
4 d peyreoux- gold coast titans
5 v duport-catalan
6 d chisholm-wests tigers
7 t bosc-catalan
8 d ferriol - catalan
9 j rinaldi -london
10-r casty - catalan
11 g mounis- catalan
12 o elima- bulls
13 j baitieri-catalan
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14 e pelissier- catalan
15 j fakir - catalan
16 m simon- catalan
17 s raguin- catalan'"
Ferriol has retired from international RL and Rinaldi is getting on a bit but Greenshields is still available for selection - Bemba (ASC) has had a good season at prop and young Kevin Larroyer (TO13) is getting better with each game not to mention Moragn Escaré (UTC) who looks a very good FB prospect and not forgetting William Barthau at 7
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| gigot,barthau,touxagas,vaccarri,gossard all catalan as well
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| Quote ="leek123"This french team looks pretty strong.With the game been played in france and france having 1 or 2 warm up games before hand with this team would be a good contest.
1 cyril stacul -catalan
2 dimitri pelo-canberra
3 jp baile-catalan
4 d peyreoux- gold coast titans
5 v duport-catalan
6 d chisholm-wests tigers
7 t bosc-catalan
8 d ferriol - catalan
9 j rinaldi -london
10-r casty - catalan
11 g mounis- catalan
12 o elima- bulls
13 j baitieri-catalan
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14 e pelissier- catalan
15 j fakir - catalan
16 m simon- catalan
17 s raguin- catalan'"
The three Australian based players are all reserve graders.
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| maybe so but how many of the exiles would br reserve grade in the nrl?
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| Quote ="The Eclipse"The three Australian based players are all reserve graders.'"
Pelo's played a couple of times this year I think.
But Peyroux has already played for Cook Islands, which should (I know it doesn't) make him ineligible.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Pelo's played a couple of times this year I think.
But Peyroux has already played for Cook Islands, which should (I know it doesn't) make him ineligible.'"
he could play for france.but international rules eh!!
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| I assume Pelo / Peyroux can play for France then? They're both Aussies.
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| I thought the whole idea of putting Catalans into S.L was to give us a formidable opponent in the Northern hemisphere whilst increasing the profile of the game in France.
Instead we’re left with playing a team, with the odd exception, who would struggle to get a game in the NRL IMO.
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| Quote ="richardviking"I assume Pelo / Peyroux can play for France then? They're both Aussies.'"
*sigh* Pelo is French.
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| We dont need a warm up test for the England side, we need a competition for potential England players to prove themselves worthy of a jersey against other potential England players.
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| Pelo is from New Caledonia, a French territory in the Pacific Ocean.
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"I thought the whole idea of putting Catalans into S.L was to give us a formidable opponent in the Northern hemisphere whilst increasing the profile of the game in France.
Instead we’re left with playing a team, with the odd exception, who would struggle to get a game in the NRL IMO.'"
Indeed, I also expect a full team to come through a single academy in a few years that is as good as that coming through over ten times as many academies from the much more established opposition.
Seriously? I really do wonder if the sheer impatience and pessimism is some sort of RL in-joke that I've never come across or something.
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| Quote ="richardviking"I assume Pelo / Peyroux can play for France then? They're both Aussies.'"
Pelo already has french international caps so where's the problem ?
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| Quote ="Bovrick"Indeed, I also expect a full team to come through a single academy in a few years that is as good as that coming through over ten times as many academies from the much more established opposition.
Seriously? I really do wonder if the sheer impatience and pessimism is some sort of RL in-joke that I've never come across or something.'"
Agreed, but you would also have to question if France are any closer to the other three top nations than they were pre catalans? Maybe they just haven't fallen further behind?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Agreed, but you would also have to question if France are any closer to the other three top nations than they were pre catalans? Maybe they just haven't fallen further behind?'"
I think this is it. RL is still exploding in Australia and New Zealand, and even England are getting back on track now imo. For France to not lose ground is a strong achievement in my eyes, if they gained that would be brilliant. But it is going to be a slow process, but a worthwhile long term aim nonetheless.
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| Quote ="Bovrick"Indeed, I also expect a full team to come through a single academy in a few years that is as good as that coming through over ten times as many academies from the much more established opposition.
Seriously? I really do wonder if the sheer impatience and pessimism is some sort of RL in-joke that I've never come across or something.'"
The French are no nearer now than when Catalan entered the competition & with their involvement in SL, they never will be.
So, do you think it’s impatient of me to wait Forty years for a series victory over the Aussies?
That’s what I want to see & the French experiment is not the answer to our inability to live with the Aussies.
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| I think you've missed the point totally. Catalan was a stimulus for the re-emergence of the game in France and although it's never going to be a national sport, France, once again is heading in the right direction
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| Quote ="The Devil's Advocate"The French are no nearer now than when Catalan entered the competition & with their involvement in SL, they never will be.
So, do you think it’s impatient of me to wait Forty years for a series victory over the Aussies?
That’s what I want to see & the French experiment is not the answer to our inability to live with the Aussies.'"
Maybe not impatient, but it's daft and a bit stupid, a trait too often displayed by RL fans, to decry a system or plan as not working and not worthwhile if it doesn't produce amazing, huge, game-changing, earth-shattering results within a couple of years.
This is Catalans 7th season in SL, less than that with an academy structure. Why would anyone assume that just one club could produce an entire national team capable of beating its bigger rival within just a few years? When England can't do it with ten times more teams with over a hundred years experience.
We are reaping the seeds sown 15/20/25 years ago by selfish and short sighted clubs and administrators. The lack of long term planning in the past is the reason why clubs are going bust now, the league isn't as strong as it should be, the amateur game is poorly run and poorly coached, the England team can't beat Australia, and no-one south of Sheffield or north of York (except Cumbria) has heard of rugby league.
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| I think it will take a few more years until the success of Catalans rubs off on the national team. There are more kids playing at junior level every year in France, the game was dead ten years ago there, now it's looking to expand and progress.
The French Catalans players are basically the best from what was left from the bad days in France. Some of the younger Catalans players like Eloi Pelissier, Julian Bousquet, Jason Baitieri & William Barthau are just starting to get into the Catalan team. I think Baitieri is top class already, and Pelissier & Barthau will be when they mature a little more.
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| Baitieri is from Sydney Roosters thats why (or someone like that). Hes not really a french product
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| Quote ="leek123"This french team looks pretty strong.With the game been played in france and france having 1 or 2 warm up games before hand with this team would be a good contest.
1 cyril stacul -catalan
2 dimitri pelo-canberra
3 jp baile-catalan
4 d peyreoux- gold coast titans
5 v duport-catalan
6 d chisholm-wests tigers
7 t bosc-catalan
8 d ferriol - catalan
9 j rinaldi -london
10-r casty - catalan
11 g mounis- catalan
12 o elima- bulls
13 j baitieri-catalan
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14 e pelissier- catalan
15 j fakir - catalan
16 m simon- catalan
17 s raguin- catalan'"
Your team is not the best possible. You don't need 2nd rate Aussies like Chisolm. There are enough good French players.
Greenshields will return to Australia and will not play for France again.
Quote ="Dico"Baitieri is from Sydney Roosters thats why (or someone like that). Hes not really a french product'"
Quote ="jonny the leyther". Some of the younger Catalans players like Eloi Pelissier, Julian Bousquet, Jason Baitieri & William Barthau are just starting to get into the Catalan team.'"
Baiteiri --- a Catalans regular, not "just starting to get into the Catalans team" --- [iis French born and speaks French[/i, so he is very qualified.
The best French team at this moment is:
Stacul
Vaccari, Duport, Baile, Cardace
Bosc
Barthau
Baiteiri
Elima, Mounis
Casty, Pelissier, Simon
Interchange: Rinaldi, Fakir, Raguin, Griffi/Bemba
Escare and Bousquet should soon be qualified.
This team could possibly keep England to within 20 points (e.g. 30-16).
However if France is to be competitive it needs to have a second SL club in Toulouse in 2015 -- with one or two more French SL clubs to come in 2018 or 2021 -- so as to encourage and train more French youth to become professionals, and by this method increase the quality French player pool, as well as increase the interest among the French public and investors.
Don't forget now we have the TV support from Al Jazeera (Bein Sport) which means it is more attractive for the French businessman to support the rugby 13 teams.
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| Quote ="Dico"Baitieri is from Sydney Roosters thats why (or someone like that). Hes not really a french product'"
you mean a bit like Rangi Chase from Wests Tigers & Illawara ?
or Widdup,Heighlington or Reed et al....
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Your team is not the best possible. You don't need 2nd rate Aussies like Chisolm. There are enough good French players.
Quote Greenshields will return to Australia and will not play for France again. '"
who told you that ? Clint will play for France again this autumn if Potter is the new coach and if he's fit
Quote Escare and Bousquet should soon be qualified.'"
how do you mean 'qualified' - what's to stop them playing now of they were selected ?
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