Anyone else see him on extra time, looks like the guy is at his wits end, thought he was gonna break down in tears at one point.

Still, is stating "been saying for weeks we arent where we need to be" good for his squad, comes across like he has been preaching to the deaf.

He looks like a broken man

Sign him up on a 10 year deal. He needs to be given more time.

I suppose looking back on the last 18 months he had a stellar period of 2-3 months getting to the Cup final and winning the GF

Apart from that I'm sure the stats downt look that good.

The stats are these:

42 weekly-round games played under McDermott - just 23 wins.

This season, Leeds have played 8 games against the six teams currently above them....and won 2, at home against Warrington (lacking Hodgson, Bridge, M Monaghan, Harrison) and Catalan.

I know Leeds fans will blast me for this but winning the GF last season just papered over the cracks, but cup comps can do that hence why playoffs should not decide the Championship. I know you could argue they got to Wembley too but Wigan knocked out all the strong clubs on their way to Wembley.

Its not just McDermott's fault though. 2010 they where 4th when the decline began, 5th last season and this season no higher than 5th again. Considering there are only about 7 clubs paying full salary cap, finishing lower than 5th when you are a club paying the full salary cap is pretty poor.

I doubt Leeds, having lost and not replaced high-earners Senior, Buderus and Lauititi, are playing at full cap. As one of the wealthier (and the most profitable) club, that would be pretty inexcusable.

Doubt you'll get blasted by too many Leeds fans over the rest of what you said.

It's like a carbon copy of last season for leeds, except unlikely to have the same ending.

It certainly won't have the fairy tale end to the season of last year

You never know.
Maybe they are going to try and win from even lower than 5th

Rush said exactly the same last week and so did Brown the week before. All have seemed numb so god knows whats has been said to the players after the game.

Poisoned challis. There's a reason Bluey left a season early.

Had you given the man a gun, then suicide was on the cards. Thankfully no weapon was supplied and he's free to carry on his excellent work for the rest of the season.

Leeds are not paying the full salary cap, they never have and they never will, this year they will be 3/400k below the cap.

Never liked mac as a coach. Was really poor down here at London, talking the team up way beyond realistic expectations then slating the players after they lost. Not the right man for the Rhinoscerouses job.

I assume you have evidence of this.

The guy won the grand final. How many other super league coaches can say the same thing?

John Kear won the CC at Hull after beating 5 SL teams, including that year's top 3. He was sacked about 8 months later.

Moral of the story: one swallow doesn't make a summer.

Brought in Moore, Griffin, Harauki. Signs Ablett on a 5 year deal.

He just loves a slow steady Eddie- mastered it at the Quins. Got rid of all the skill and speed and sent out a team of second rowers. The blokes useless.

Moral of the story ? Hull were run by a bunch of idiots.

Whereas you now have a coach that has moved the club forwards to bigger and better things.

Yes and it's rather personal, but I'm sure you knew that.

Or a coach who is young and still learning much like his team?

Mac knows where the door is if he wants out its just a case of will they are him out of it in a straight jacket, a coffin or will he just walk?

he can't go much longer.
dammit i like the man. he comes over as a really decent guy who is a deep thinker about the game.

sadly as a coach he isn't good enough. no structure, no shape, no sense even in his decisions.
the squad needs three or four top class players but a top coach would have them in the top 5

Whereas now we have someone even more out of his depth. But that's not really the discussion here.