Can anyone tell me now that England are in the final next week,,Is Henry Perenara going to be the Ref?....

Thierry Alibert's name has been going around abit at the minute.

I suppose it depends on who Sheens wants!

Perenara could be a good ref for us in this game, he will have watched back his mistakes a it will be at the back of his mind and we may well get the rub of the green this time. Not that id want to final to come down to a ref decision.

i would take that

Monsewer Alibert is a master referee compared to the idiots we have had to put up with these last two weeks from 'down under'.

I'm thinking an Aussie ref, who will do his best to screw us and then well be accused of whinging for complaining about it.

won't be a aussie ref.....bentham or terry albert are going to get it

I really wouldnt count on that. The ref will be whoever the Aussies want because thats how International RL works. Just hope whoever takes charge is a heck of alot better than the last two we have had to endure.

The Aussie will get it after a week of bleating from Sheens

Should be Thierry Alibert. Neutral, full time pro, top division official. No brainer.

Sheens may bleat, but he would not have a leg to stand on. Even if he insists that the Kiwi 'lacks experience' (a reasonable view) Thierry Alibert is an SL ref and fully qualified to ref it as a neutral. To try to exclude Alibert would be akin to saying that no SL ref is up to it, and that's an insult too far.

It will be one of the squad of three that have already officiated. If its neutral, it will be Perenara.

Personally i wouldn't have a problem with the Aussie ref or Perenara. I thought Creachin (Spelling?) did very well last night. Apart from the 10minute meltdown at Wembley, i though Perenara reffed both his games well. But at international level you have to be on it for 80 minutes.

As long as it's not Bentham who in the 3 big games he's reffed this year, i haven't seen him perform well.

Hope you're right.

And after last weekend's officiating debacle ...

It won't be Alibert. That's a promise

I hope it's the kiwi again and it's then up to McNamara to put plenty of pressure on him in the build up and to us as fans to get at him on the night.

We need to make his appalling performance last week work to our advantage next week.

Yep,Thats what i was thinking of myself.Can*t imagine they will put a neutral ref (ie Alibert) for this one,and like someone else said he did make a "couple" of cock ups so it might work in our favour....

Bentham has been, by a good way, the best ref of the 4 Nations.

I feel that the two ref system in the NRL might be diluting individual ref'ing standards. I know that Perenara should never have been selected in the first place but Cecchin is experienced, but he still looks to be way behind the pace of Bentham and less confident in ref'ing a game back on his own.

If they pick the best ref from the existing three (which I think they will), then it should be Bentham. I think giving it to Perenara would be a mistake because he is way off being experienced enough to take this game on and Cecchin is not as good as Bentham. So, if not Bentham it should be Alibert, who is both neutral and good enough.

Anyone any ideas or will we let the aussies choose as usual ?

I'll do it.

on sky it says sheens is pushing matt cheechin to ref no surprise there then i truely believe he sees as real threat to him. i dont know how to post link's but its under the ellis should be fit for the weekend. the article goes on to say he believes the ref with the best form should take the final spot and after he's complaint how bentham reffed the kiwi v aus match he isn't the best ref for it and steve doesn't want to be drawn into an arguement.

I vote for jonny the leyther, I reckon the Aussies wouldn't know what'd hit em after 39 penalties against them in the first 20 minutes