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Some of you may not remember the extended world club challenge that happened in 1997 but it was a total rout for all our sides. No English sides got any further than the quarter finals.
If the same tournament was run today with 22 sides would we be any closer? Our game has improved owing to the imports, coaches etc etc but then again the Australian game has got even better too.
Would any of our clubs stand a chance of winning a tournament like the one that was played in '97?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_World ... ampionship
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Some of you may not remember the extended world club challenge that happened in 1997 but it was a total rout for all our sides. No English sides got any further than the quarter finals.
If the same tournament was run today with 22 sides would we be any closer? Our game has improved owing to the imports, coaches etc etc but then again the Australian game has got even better too.
Would any of our clubs stand a chance of winning a tournament like the one that was played in '97?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_World ... ampionship
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| No, there would be a similar tale of woe.
That tournament was a farce. Saints lost all our games, being ritually slaughtered in most of them and yet still progressed triumphantly to the quarter finals.
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| Wigan were beaten in the quarters by a shocking forward pass IIRC.
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| we beat the north queensland cowboys
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"we beat the north queensland cowboys'"
Think you would now to be honest. Thurston is overrated.
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| Top 4 vs top 4 would be pretty competitve any thing below that wouldn't IMO.
Leeds
Saints
Wire
Hudds
Vs
Manly
Melbourne
NZ
Wests
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Top 4 vs top 4 would be pretty competitve any thing below that wouldn't IMO.
Leeds
Saints
Wire
Hudds
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Manly
Melbourne
NZ
Wests'"
The top 4 in our competition doesn't include Wigan?
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| Our top few sides would get some results against their bottom few sides but likely beaten by their better teams. 7th and down in SL would get absolutely hammered every game.
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| Quote ="Awesome Aquinas"The top 4 in our competition doesn't include Wigan?'"
No, why would it?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, why would it?'"
Because Wigan are one of the top 4 sides in our competition. If the World Club Challenge was to take place now, I'd rather have Wigan playing for Super League than Huddersfield.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, why would it?'"
They managed to win a SL Grand Final in very recent memory, just swao them for St. Helens
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| Quote ="Thoth"They managed to win a SL Grand Final in very recent memory, just swao them for St. Helens'"
Don't include St Helens. We need a side capable of winning finals.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"Don't include St Helens. We need a side capable of winning finals.'"
No, just don't play the final at Old Trafford....we can win finals elsewhere
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| Quote ="Charlie Sheen"Top 4 vs top 4 would be pretty competitve any thing below that wouldn't IMO.
Leeds
Saints
Wire
Hudds
Vs
Manly
Melbourne
NZ
Wests'"
Pathetic!
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| Quote ="CM Punk"Wigan were beaten in the quarters by a shocking forward pass IIRC.'"
We were probably the only English side to come out of it with much credit. We beat Canterbury Bulldogs home and away iirc and like you say was unlucky in the quarter against Hunter Mariners.
We had a stinker of a side in 97 as well with gems like Doc Murray, Paul Koloi and Stuart Lester turning out for us.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"We were probably the only English side to come out of it with much credit. We beat Canterbury Bulldogs home and away iirc and like you say was unlucky in the quarter against Hunter Mariners.
We had a stinker of a side in 97 as well with gems like Doc Murray, Paul Koloi and Stuart Lester turning out for us.'"
Au contraire London Broncos also made the quarter-finals after smashing Canberra at the Stoop!
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| Quote ="poplar panther"Au contraire London Broncos also made the quarter-finals after smashing Canberra at the Stoop!'"
Indeed! Reasonable crowd too - ca. 10,000 IIRC.
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| Quote ="poplar panther"Au contraire London Broncos also made the quarter-finals after smashing Canberra at the Stoop!'"
[size=85Quarter-finals
Date Result Score Stadium City Crowd
3 October 1997 Auckland Warriors def. Bradford Bulls 62-14 Ericsson Stadium Auckland 9,553
3 October 1997 Hunter Mariners def. Wigan Warriors 22-18 Central Park Wigan -
4 October 1997 Brisbane Broncos def. St Helens 66-12 ANZ Stadium Brisbane 6,438
6 October 1997 Cronulla Sharks def. London Broncos 40-16 The Stoop London 6,239
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| I seem to recall Russell Crowe saying he'd love to hold some type of extended WCC... in Vegas! I must admit I do like the sound of that. Imagine a few thousand rugby league fans in Vegas. What a party!
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| London beat Canberra.
After Canberra beat London in Oz and politely said London played like "a bunch of spastics"
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| would like to see this competition tried again in some form or other in superleague 20 to celebrate 20 years of superleague
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| Quote ="Saddened!"No, there would be a similar tale of woe.
That tournament was a farce. Saints lost all our games, being ritually slaughtered in most of them and yet still progressed triumphantly to the quarter finals.'"
i was just think......saints did'nt win a game but got to the 1/4's.......
we beat NQ cowboys.......and went bust
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| top 4 extension would be good to watch.
if a team below 4th wins grand final then the 4th place finished team should drop out!
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| Quote ="kobashi"top 4 extension would be good to watch.
if a team below 4th wins grand final then the 4th place finished team should drop out!'"
Depends what you class as the 'top 4'.
Given the GF winners are the champions and the GF losers are presumably seen as the runners up then the beaten semi-finalists should be seen as the remainder of that seasons top 4. Hence this seasons top 4 were Leeds, Saints, Warrington & Wigan.
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