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| After attending the semifinal on Sunday - I went along thinking it would actually be quite nice for Cas to get to a major final after years without anything really to get too excited about.
Cas were desperately unlucky not to be going to Wembely and had Rangi Chase been successful with his drop goal attempt, that dream may have well been a reality.
What was most dissapointing however was the reaction of the Cas fans after the game. Scenes included Cas fans hurling verbal abuse in a aggressive manner, using foul language and baiting Leeds fans to try to get them to trade punches - this was whilst ladies and children were in amongst the crowd.
After such behaviour I'm glad that Cas didnt win the match and that sort of behaviour was digusting however hard done by they felt.
Our game needs to be played and watched in the correct spirits and Cas fans you let your club, your sport and the game down on Sunday.
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| I can only apologise on behalf of Cas fans everywhere. I left the game as soon as the deciding kick went over so didn't see any of the agro you're referring to but have no doubt it occurred. On the way in it was evident there were a number of Cas fans aled up and quite vocal and it was always likely that in a match that ended the way it did some would not be able to contain their frustrations.
Cas do have plenty of decent fans in the same way that every side has some idiots that give the rest a bad name...
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| Most of the Cas fans I came across were pretty decent. They were understandably gutted but they managed to partake in a bit of banter.
And they're all supporting Wigan in the final, apparently.
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| Not the first time they've done something like this, although it seems to becoming more frequent.
RFL need to get tough on this club, although when they do Cas fans scream of "victimisation".
I have very few pleasant feelings towards their fans in anyway, yet I've never lowered myself to these standards.
What can we do to protect our game? A free (but mandatory) chemical castration with every free CT season ticket?
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| Quote ="pmack17"After attending the semifinal on Sunday - I went along thinking it would actually be quite nice for Cas to get to a major final after years without anything really to get too excited about.
Cas were desperately unlucky not to be going to Wembely and had Rangi Chase been successful with his drop goal attempt, that dream may have well been a reality.
What was most dissapointing however was the reaction of the Cas fans after the game. Scenes included Cas fans hurling verbal abuse in a aggressive manner, using foul language and baiting Leeds fans to try to get them to trade punches - this was whilst ladies and children were in amongst the crowd.
After such behaviour I'm glad that Cas didnt win the match and that sort of behaviour was digusting however hard done by they felt.
Our game needs to be played and watched in the correct spirits and Cas fans you let your club, your sport and the game down on Sunday.'"
At least your council doesn't have to pick up the tab for them! Wish mine didn't! Anyone for buying a redundant bit of land in the east of the Wakefield district? LCC I'm looking at you!
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| There were police stood not far away from the stadium and had they been on hand at the point where Leeds + Cas fans interchanged I'm sure that would prevent such a vocal exchange.
On a wider basis, RL fans need to stop this blame culture whereby teams lose due to poor refeering and certainly shouldnt be directing their anger towards the opposing fans who werent even being arrogant in any way.
I think the standards of refeering in this country isnt great but to quote Wayne Bennett - if your team is good enough you shouldnt need to rely on refeering decisions.
I must say I thought both teams were very average on Sunday with the only player who stood out with any real class was Rangi Chase.
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"RFL need to get tough on this club, although when they do Cas fans scream of "victimisation".'"
What, get tougher than relegating them in place of a team who blatantly cheated to avoid the drop?
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| Quote ="G.Price Fan Club"Not the first time they've done something like this, although it seems to becoming more frequent.
RFL need to get tough on this club, although when they do Cas fans scream of "victimisation".
I have very few pleasant feelings towards their fans in anyway, yet I've never lowered myself to these standards.
What can we do to protect our game? A free (but mandatory) chemical castration with every free CT season ticket?'"
What a surprise - a Wakey fan diving in to stick the boot into Cas. It wasn't Cas who recently had a fan run onto the pitch to remonstrate with the referee when she didn't agree with his decisions. And before you say it, being female and of advancing years is no mitigation!
Cas have a larger number of fans in the Wakefield district than Wakefield do, ergo we contribute a larger amount of council tax that goes to paying for the upkeep of the district so we're entitled to at least our fair share of any assistance that the council offers the 2 clubs - not very much I know!
I dare say the majority of Cas fans object to their money going towards assisting the Wakey club in any way...
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| Quote ="pmack17"After attending the semifinal on Sunday - I went along thinking it would actually be quite nice for Cas to get to a major final after years without anything really to get too excited about.
Cas were desperately unlucky not to be going to Wembely and had Rangi Chase been successful with his drop goal attempt, that dream may have well been a reality.
What was most dissapointing however was the reaction of the Cas fans after the game. Scenes included Cas fans hurling verbal abuse in a aggressive manner, using foul language and baiting Leeds fans to try to get them to trade punches - this was whilst ladies and children were in amongst the crowd.
After such behaviour I'm glad that Cas didnt win the match and that sort of behaviour was digusting however hard done by they felt.
Our game needs to be played and watched in the correct spirits and Cas fans you let your club, your sport and the game down on Sunday.'"
I can honestly say I didn't see any trouble what so ever. At the end, I left with everyone else and walked in procession towards the buses. Nobody said anything we just lined up at the buses waiting to get on. The leeds fans walked passed and still nothing. I think we were all still too gutted to say anything. To say the reaction of "Cas fans" is a complete exageration. In your words there were 6,000 of us wanting blood. Total rubbish! It was probably the usual dozen or so morons.
I just hope Leeds don't take their dozen or so morons to wembley again this year. Remember what happen last year?
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| Quote ="who needs flankers?"I just hope Leeds don't take their dozen or so morons to wembley again this year. Remember what happen last year?
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Or how about that Leeds fan who got kicked out of the Millennium Stadium at the start of the season for throwing a bottle at Dean Widders?
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| Quote ="Cecil B"What a surprise - a Wakey fan diving in to stick the boot into Cas. It wasn't Cas who recently had a fan run onto the pitch to remonstrate with the referee when she didn't agree with his decisions. And before you say it, being female and of advancing years is no mitigation!
Cas have a larger number of fans in the Wakefield district than Wakefield do, ergo we contribute a larger amount of council tax that goes to paying for the upkeep of the district so we're entitled to at least our fair share of any assistance that the council offers the 2 clubs - not very much I know!
I dare say the majority of Cas fans object to their money going towards assisting the Wakey club in any way...'"
Highley unlikely as the majority live with their sisters/brothers/cousins in the same council tax band A house.
Added to that ive never heard anything as ridiculous -- Cas fans paying there council tax!!!!!
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Or how about that Leeds fan who got kicked out of the Millennium Stadium at the start of the season for throwing a bottle at Dean Widders?
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Oh yea, I forgot aboout that. On Dean Widders you say? So it was a racial attack then?
So from the original posters sweeping generalisations we can therefore assume that all Leeds fans are racist?
It's pretty easy to jump to wildly inaccurate conclusions isn't it? And no, before anyone says it, I don't believe that! Just pointing out the holes you could drive a bus through in this thread. Might as well lock it.
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| i never saw any trouble after the game and tbh the atmosphere outside the ground was very low key,the vast majority of cas fans headed back to where the coaches were parked and very little was said or spoken.
the leeds fans were also very quiet considering they had just won to get to wembley but i think they could also sence that goading wasnt the right thing to do considering how diassapointed the cas fans were.
inside the ground the cas fans were magnificent has quoted by kevin sinfield and backed the team with tremendous vocal support which has gone unnoticed by the op but then again some folk will do anything to have a moan and look to bring a club down.
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| =#0080FFI'm sure of course that there was no goading from Leeds fans.
All clubs have their share of idiots, I saw a group of Leeds fans after the game at the front of the stadium goading an elderly man with a walking stick but you don't find me coming on here tarring the entire Leeds club with that brush. One of the people involved was old enough to know better.
For what it is worth, I thought both sets of fans were mostly fantastic outside the stadium after the match and mixing together without any bother. There was some chanting from Leeds as to be expected but I thought it was particularly quiet from both sets of fans. There was only that one incident that I saw.
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| Apologies I didnt intend to accuse or portray all Cas fans as I am sure the vast majority behaved like the majority of RL fans.
However there were some rather abusive fans who were extremely intimidating - this was outside the Polypipe stand just after the game.
My 1st reaction was that I was very glad I didnt bring my 4 year old newphew, which is not the type of thought I would ever want attending an RL match.
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| Quote ="pmack17"Apologies I didnt intend to accuse or portray all Cas fans as I am sure the vast majority behaved like the majority of RL fans.
However there were some rather abusive fans who were extremely intimidating - this was outside the Polypipe stand just after the game.
My 1st reaction was that I was very glad I didnt bring my 4 year old newphew, which is not the type of thought I would ever want attending an RL match.'"
From both sets of supporters- if you're going to tell stories at least tell it from both points of view.
For no apparent reason some vastly over-weight Leeds fan decided to shout at me that I "was only F*ck*ng jealous" because he was going to Wembley (Not sure if any children were around, but my girlfriend was)......turns out he was wrong, as I'm going to Wembley anyway (unsure who I am supporting as yet as I'm not keen on either team)- I wouldn't put too much cash on him going to Wembley though, three weeks is a long time and a lot a strain on a heart pumping blood around an ox that size!!
From what I have heard there were no punches thrown and no arrests (2 people went onto the playing field of which none were cautioned) so the police can't of been too concerned about the fan rivalry.
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| Quote ="pmack17"
this was outside the Polypipe stand just after the game.
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The same stand i was in and the same stand i walk out of 5 mins after the penalty was taken.
I saw no trouble physical or verbal apart from one young lad with glasses on who was by himself.
He seemed to have had a few to many and was giving the leeds fans some verbal.
In saying that half dozen loiners were giving him it back verbally and with the middle finger.
Both cas and leeds fans walked back to there buses which must have been close together cos we all walked the same way. No problems what so ever. Infact the loiners looked subdued and you would have thought they had lost the game. Of cause some are gonna go OTT all teams have them sort of supporters. Passions were running high and all us cas fans were so frustrated with the result, no excuse for causing trouble, but some just cant control there emotions. And sport is all about emotion/passion. Take that away and it would be boring.
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| Just looks like another case of "let's make things about Cas fans up"...like a Wakey fan who said a Wakefield fan was jumped on Wheldon Road after the game, only he out of the thousands of people on the road happened to see it and he didn't report it.
Quote ="poppys mum"The same stand i was in and the same stand i walk out of 5 mins after the penalty was taken.
I saw no trouble physical or verbal apart from one young lad with glasses on who was by himself.
He seemed to have had a few to many and was giving the leeds fans some verbal.
In saying that half dozen loiners were giving him it back verbally and with the middle finger.
Both cas and leeds fans walked back to there buses which must have been close together cos we all walked the same way. No problems what so ever. Infact the loiners looked subdued and you would have thought they had lost the game. Of cause some are gonna go OTT all teams have them sort of supporters. Passions were running high and all us cas fans were so frustrated with the result, no excuse for causing trouble, but some just cant control there emotions. And sport is all about emotion/passion. Take that away and it would be boring.'"
Now no, don't be using facts when there's a chance to make things up about Cas.
Just wait from Smokey to come along now and say something about Gareth Thomas for some reason that only he knows why.
Here is the question though - if it was as bad, as you try and make it out why didn't the police do anything? Sounds like someone was being overly precious if the police didn't see fit to intervene at any point.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Highley unlikely as the majority live with their sisters/brothers/cousins in the same council tax band A house.
Added to that ive never heard anything as ridiculous -- Cas fans paying there council tax!!!!!
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unlike Agbrigg rd where there are 15 people per property.
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| Wow,great thread,2 pages and not a single piece of factual evidence to back the OP's original comment up.
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| Quote ="007"Wow,great thread,2 pages and not a single piece of factual evidence to back the OP's original comment up.'"
Well ill give some factual evidence then. Walking into the ground we had 4 children in our group......aged from 4 up to 7. They were singing come on you fords etc etc as we walked down. A man in a Rhinos shirt about 50ish decided to call our children f##ki## inbred c u next tuesdays!!!! He was in a group of 5 and the woman of the group had a right go at him aswell as all the adults in our group. Quite frankly he is lucky i didn't smack him in the face tbf and I'm a woman!!
You will see i didnt call the said person a Leeds FAN - because people like him are a disgrace to the game! We all have them as clubs though and I take offence to the OP making sweeping generalisations about us as cas fans. When making a post like that be careful to give a balanced view!! If you think Leeds don't have people that are idiots then you are blinkered! This wasn't the first time my kids have suffered abuse from Rhinos but i still dont say all Rhinos are the same!!!
Tbh I didnt expect how gracious the Leeds fans were and have been so for those of you that took your victory so graciously I applaud you
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| I saw one cheap shot punch by a cas fan the leeds fans where heading one way past the side stand to go towards the hills and the lake and the cas fans coming the other. Some guy must have been early 40s punched a leeds fan totally unprovoked then made a run for it. on the flip side i was speaking to a cas fan walking back around to where the vue cinema and doncaster dome is and hed been punched by a leeds fan for apparently no reason. Police where sorting something outside the main side stand too on the grass not quite sure what went off there. you could quite clearly tell allot of the cas fans where gutted but they should realise its just a game and not resort to abuse and violence.
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| Quote ="trigger"I saw one cheap shot punch by a cas fan the leeds fans where heading one way past the side stand to go towards the hills and the lake and the cas fans coming the other. Some guy must have been early 40s punched a leeds fan totally unprovoked then made a run for it. on the flip side i was speaking to a cas fan walking back around to where the vue cinema and doncaster dome is and hed been punched by a leeds fan for apparently no reason. Police where sorting something outside the main side stand too on the grass not quite sure what went off there. you could quite clearly tell allot of the cas fans where gutted but they should realise its just a game and not resort to abuse and violence.'"
So what do you say to the Leeds fan who resorted to violence when he punched the Cas fan?
Oh no that's right lets just mention the Cas fans again. Muppet.
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| what about the leeds fan a big bloke in his late 20's early 30's and his loud mouth girl friend who decided to gloat to a group of what looked like middle aged women waiting by the exit to the car park when they told them to move along the idiot decided to throw what looked like a carton which had food at one of the women and then followed it with something else which I couldn't see althoug someone said it was a large stone but i can't say thats what is was for certain then they started f'in and blindin at the group the police became involved and had to chase after the bloke and his girl friend they managed to mingle into the crowd then the girlfriend decided to come back and have another go at which point the police got the pair of them. So lets face it every team has idiots lets not tar a whole teams fans just because an idiot lets us down
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