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| How bad is he!!?? Not fit enough, too old and no where near good enough!! And whenever the game starts to get away from him, he comes in with cheap shots and lazy penalties. Do we really want this guy in the four nations? No question, Peacock has always given his all for England, but if we are really serious about beating OZ/NZ, then we have to have a ruthless streak and get rid of the dead wood, which Peacock seriously is.
But i've no doubt Peacock will be leading England out against OZ and we will get murdered. Show some leadership Macca and drop him because he will be destroyed in th 4N.
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"How bad is he!!?? Not fit enough, too old and no where near good enough!! And whenever the game starts to get away from him, he comes in with cheap shots and lazy penalties. Do we really want this guy in the four nations? No question, Peacock has always given his all for England, but if we are really serious about beating OZ/NZ, then we have to have a ruthless streak and get rid of the dead wood, which Peacock seriously is.
But i've no doubt Peacock will be leading England out against OZ and we will get murdered. Show some leadership Macca and drop him because he will be destroyed in th 4N.
Woeful'"
Good post.
I was thinking the same thing.
He brings nothing to the side these days.
Sure he gives his all... but his all simply isn't good enough. He reminds me of one of those old slow punch drunk heavyweights that drag themselves into the ring one or 2 times too many.
Not only is he a very ordinary player but he loses his temper too quickly and can't back it up either. He doesnt have the 'fear factor' in his game.
He should be dropped immediately.
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| Quote ="roughyedspud"he's done'"
And he's been given another twelve months deal.
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| Good player, but the frustration was clearly getting to him.
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| he isn't back to full fitness yet, his injured leg is still smaller than the other - if he gets back to that full fitness he will still be one of the best in Super league
if he doesn't manage it by October he shouldn't play for England
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| He's better than Morley as this stage of their careers. Truth is both are beaten and should be considering their exits from the game.
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I hope this is sarcastic...
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| MacBanana will still pick him from Enland
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| he really is having a shocking season!
terrible today.
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| Quote ="hudzilla"Bradford did well to get rid when they did to be honest'"
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| Who would you pick for props? Graham, Burgess, Griffin, and McCarthy-Scarsbrook?
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| Carvell, Mossop, Morley, Burgess, Graham, Crabtree and Griffin will all be in front of Peacock at this stage.
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| Quote ="maurice"Carvell, Mossop, Morley, Burgess, Graham, [uCrabtree [/uand Griffin will all be in front of Peacock at this stage.'"
Crabtree?
For a big man he has to be one of the least intimidating players I've ever seen.
I'd sooner have Lady Gaga starting as prop than Eorl Crabtree
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| Quote ="hudzilla"Bradford did well to get rid when they did to be honest'"
You're right, he's been a total disaster at Leeds.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Crabtree?
For a big man he has to be one of the least intimidating players I've ever seen.
I'd sooner have Lady Gaga starting as prop than Eorl Crabtree'"
Yeah, but your an idiot.
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| Reminded me a bit of Paul Sculthorpe at the back end of his career today. Being niggly and dirty to make up for the lack of ability he once had.
Not good enough for England anymore unfortunately.
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| I don't disagree with him both not playing that well or being dropped by England if his form doesn't pick up. But he's only a few games back from a serious injury which he may or may not fully recover from.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He's better than Morley as this stage of their careers. Truth is both are beaten and should be considering their exits from the game.'"
right! what a load of poop, morley is playing fine, or was untill some scouse cheap shot!
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| Returned from a bad injury.
Mid 30's
Not fully fit
Not the future for Internationals
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"Crabtree?
For a big man he has to be one of the least intimidating players I've ever seen.
I'd sooner have Lady Gaga starting as prop than Eorl Crabtree'"
As a giants fan i would have to agree
Unless Crabtree decides he wants to use his weight and actually gets fired up i struggle to be impressed. When he is good he is awesome, but i often watch feeling frustrated seeing a man of such stature not use all he has to offer on a more regular basis. And to be honest i think it frustrates me even more because he is the only person who gets cheered when he comes off the bench, probably because he is the only player half of our fans even know
I understand he has been a great servant to the club, i just feel he could give Hudds and England so much more!
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| Morley doesn't seem to be struggling when I see him.
I must say though, I was mighty impressed with Carvell on friday. For me, he has failed to live up to his billing since signed from Hull, but looks to really be in the right gear. The guy is massive and if he's on form, has the physical atributes to bother even the Aussies.
Eorl, to his credit, has shown up well at international level when I doubted his inclusion. I remember a game against the Kiwis when they didn't really know what to do with him.
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| Quote ="'fro nips"As a giants fan i would have to agree
Unless Crabtree decides he wants to use his weight and actually gets fired up i struggle to be impressed. When he is good he is awesome, but i often watch feeling frustrated seeing a man of such stature not use all he has to offer on a more regular basis. And to be honest i think it frustrates me even more because he is the only person who gets cheered when he comes off the bench, probably because he is the only player half of our fans even know
I understand he has been a great servant to the club, i just feel he could give Hudds and England so much more!'"
Not seen too much of Hudds play, but what I have seen I would say that Griffin and Mason had more of an impact on the game than Crabtree
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"How bad is he!!?? Not fit enough, too old and no where near good enough!! And whenever the game starts to get away from him, he comes in with cheap shots and lazy penalties. Do we really want this guy in the four nations? No question, Peacock has always given his all for England, but if we are really serious about beating OZ/NZ, then we have to have a ruthless streak and get rid of the dead wood, which Peacock seriously is.
But i've no doubt Peacock will be leading England out against OZ and we will get murdered. Show some leadership Macca and drop him because he will be destroyed in th 4N.
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Ridiculous post, he's still in the top 5 best props in SL.
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