As per usual there seem to be a number of threads suggesting moving Millenium Magic from Cardiff again.

Since I didn't go (not having a team and not enjoying sport as a neutral) far be it from me to tell you what to do with it.

But I'm going to anyway.

If you like Cardiff enough, move the date by one week. This will place it in the rest week of the 6 nations.

Now that Union has sorted out the collapsing scrums, I've been watching it again and am entertained by it. However, League is still entertaining. Wales is an international RU watching nation and the 6N week off is a pain in the posterior. By shifting Millenium Magic to the off week complements the most loved home internationals tournament, instead of competing with it.

You may get some extra locals giving it a go if they don't have to choose between Wales RU and lots of League.

A bit of mass advertising wouldn't go amiss either. Stuff the papers in Wales. They hate league. An advert or 2 on ITV Wales would go miles further.

A local team competing would be a further draw.

Wrexham is not local.

We may have no choice, Murrayfield wasn't available for this years' magic date, it is possible the millenium and/or murrayfield could be unailable for an opening weekend next year

How about move the MM back 1 week next year..
Have an unequal amout of teams in the SL thus enabling the WCC to be the main event on the 2nd day of the weekend.
Just a thought.

Once again , why is it people seem unable to do basic maths , an uneven number of teams and an uneven number of matches doesn't work

I did do my maths..
An unequal amout of teams in SL would enable the champions of SL to play their World Club Challenge match as the Final game of MM next season.

So who and when do they play their MM match ?

15+1 (from Oz) = 16
16 / 2 = 8
Learn maths yourself before slating others!!

Have you been drinking?


The champions of Europe, against the Champions of Australia/NZ playing in the last game of the last day of MM. Its not that hard to understand what he is trying to say!

So you play everybody home and away , so an even number of games , MM game is the odd match , when does the team that plays the WCC match play their odd game , and who do they play it against ?

I despair , I really do

So they miss out on a game then ?

Sit down and work it out , take your socks off if you have to

Ever heard of "the Bye"

Starbug, Brenio is saying they would miss out on a SL match BUT they would play their WCC match at MM. They could then make up their match in hand later in the season.

So the SL Champions get a ' bye ' but the rest don't ?

Even teams , even games , works

Even teams , uneven games , works if you have a MM type event

Uneven teams , even games , works with a ' bye '

Uneven teams , uneven games , doesn't work

So who would they play ?

A league with an uneven number of teams is played on a round robin basis, same as with leagues with an even number of teams.
Only difference is that on any given weekend, ONE team gets a SINGLE rest weekend when the other teams are playing.
Not getting what you find wrong about all this.

Who would they play ?

ALL the other clubs already have two games against everybody else plus the MM game , it doesn't work

They would play against the OTHER WCC top team at MM and complete the remainder of the fixture list during the season.

So they would play .... same as every year .... EVERYONE eventually.

So one team plays a game more than everybody else ?

Sit down with a calculator and a piece of paper and work it out

Yee gods

Poor effort bug

I don't need a calculator. I understand. I fail to see why you don't.

Yes, one team plays a game more than everyone else. Whichever SL team plays in the WCC match.

ONE extra match for the best team in SL. Big deal! They get the extra revenue and they just rotate their players a bit more during the course of the season.

Work it out , it doesn't work , bloody hell it's basic maths

No you don't , the team that plays the WCC gets one game less , or whoever they play as the ' extra ' game gets one game more

Thick people

Starbug, indeed it IS basic maths. Stop for a second and entertain the slight possibility that you could be wrong this time. Because with respect, you ARE.

A cursory recheck of the numbers reveals that NOBODY plays an extra match. So I was briefly wrong in assuming you were correct that one team played an extra match. Now I'm back again in the right.

1. The uneven teams in SL play each other on a round robin basis. On any playing weekend, one team (or an odd number of teams) will have a rest weekend. Thus the fixtures are completed with (including MM) ALL teams playing 2 matches against each other.

2. The uneven number of SL teams at MM are boosted by the OTHER WCC team to make an EVEN number of teams. These teams then play each other.

I can't make it any simpler for you Starbug.

HOWEVER .. it is an entertaining thread for 2 reasons.

1. I am right

2. you are wrong.

3. You are getting annoyed. (It's not cos it's you. I'd laugh if it was anyone)

So you are suggesting that the MM games don't count point wise to the Championship ?

Oo your desperateness to be right tripped me up there.

I can't recall how MM works cos i don't follow SL any more. BUt I'M STILL RIGHT

1. If MM matches are not friendlies but count towards the usual 2 SL fixtures each, then the SL champs play one extra game (the WCC one)

2. If the MM matches are friendlies and do not count towards the SL table, then NOBODY plays an extra game.