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| might as well add "... and enter championship one as well"
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| Quote ="florimo"might as well add "... and enter championship one as well"'"
why? The solvency rules were changed for Crusaders to enter Administration.
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| so thats
crusaders -4
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for the start of super league 2011.or was it -6?
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| Quote ="florimo"might as well add "... and enter championship one as well"'"
Perversely, depending on who ends up taking over the club, this action could mean the club have a much better chance of getting a new license than if admin was staved off.
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| Quote ="brearley84"so thats
crusaders -4
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for the start of super league 2011.or was it -6?'"
Crusaders got less than the maximum deduction because the new company made plans to pay off some of the debt. I've no doubt the size of any Wakefield deduction will be calculated similarly
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Perversely, depending on who ends up taking over the club, this action could mean the club have a much better chance of getting a new license than if admin was staved off.'"
Especially if a buyer owns a SL standard stadium in Wakefield.
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| Quote ="Khlav Kalash"Perversely, depending on who ends up taking over the club, this action could mean the club have a much better chance of getting a new license than if admin was staved off.'"
I'm afraid you are dreaming if you think that is actually going to be the case.
This is a very large and definite nail in your SL coffin.
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| Infact the buyers may decide it's better to share a stadium at Glasshoughton.
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| Quote The club has been in the difficult position of seeking to take into account the club’s historical attendance and playing records but naturally distancing itself from the previous regime’s financial record. The current company has only been in existence for a few months following insolvency in October 2007'"
This was supposedly the killer for us last time out... just change the date.
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| Quote ="Wadski"why? The solvency rules were changed for Crusaders to enter Administration.'"
didn't crusaders borrow £700,000 from the rugby league also
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| Quote ="Lee Tucker FC Fan 2006"didn't crusaders borrow £700,000 from the rugby league also'"
Not exactly. They went into admin owing the RFL £700k and the new company had to put arrangements in place to repay it.
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| Above anything else, it's a real shame that a club like Wakefield, a traditional club, should go into adminstration.
Something needs to be looked at internally as they have the same funding as everyone else, similar crowds to Salford, Quins, yet still end up in this trouble.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"Above anything else, it's a real shame that a club like Wakefield, a traditional club, should go into adminstration.
Something needs to be looked at internally as they have the same funding as everyone else, similar crowds to Salford, [size=150Quins,[/size yet still end up in this trouble.'"
Don't necessarily disagree but not the best example to use to prove your point
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| maybe the first dominoe to fall but not the last? As said they have no worse crowds than some other teams, seem to have sponsors like other teams, have the same grant as other teams and operate under the same salary cap as other teams.
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| Quote ="AJ Viking"Above anything else, it's a real shame that a club like Wakefield, a traditional club, should go into adminstration.'"
It's a real shame that [iany[/i RL club, traditional or otherwise, should go into administration.
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| If you're in the Championship it is minus nine points, ie Doncaster, Rochdale etc.
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| Quote ="Wadski"Infact the buyers may decide it's better to share a stadium at Glasshoughton.'"
And what if the owners (Castleford Tigers) of the stadium in Glasshoughton DON'T want them there?
Another note is, the Wakey fans are getting excited about the prospect of a millionaire taking over the club, yet none of them have taken into account the fact that what if he wants to run the club like a proper business and make them SELF SUFFICIENT first, you don't become a multi-millionaire by pumping money you'll never see again into sporting ventures, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him operating with a smaller/cheaper squad until the club can run at a level where they can run without costing him money.
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| Reality is RL clubs in England have two main sources of income that is variable: fans through gate and corporate support. Wakey need a decent stadium if they care going to alter either.
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| Quote ="rupert bear"If you're in the Championship it is minus nine points, ie Doncaster, Rochdale etc.'"
As tb pointed out, the points deduction is dependent on several factors. Crusaders were handed -6 because they carried over some of the debt to the new business whereas those you mentioned shed all debts and were therefore handed a stiffer points deduction.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"And what if the owners (Castleford Tigers) of the stadium in Glasshoughton DON'T want them there?
Another note is, the Wakey fans are getting excited about the prospect of a millionaire taking over the club, yet none of them have taken into account the fact that what if he wants to run the club like a proper business and make them SELF SUFFICIENT first, you don't become a multi-millionaire by pumping money you'll never see again into sporting ventures, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him operating with a smaller/cheaper squad until the club can run at a level where they can run without costing him money.'"
Minor reality check in your reply to Wadski's tongue in cheek post... what stadium at Glasshoughton? I hope do you do get one and very soon, I have no issues with GH and Cas but as yet it is nothing more than Newmarket (albeit reserved matters and therefore planning being a shoe-in for GH)... a site!
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| Quote ="rupert bear"If you're in the Championship it is minus nine points, ie Doncaster, Rochdale etc.'"
-9 in the Championship is the same as -6 in SL. i.e. 3 wins.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"maybe the first dominoe to fall but not the last? As said they have no worse crowds than some other teams, seem to have sponsors like other teams, have the same grant as other teams and operate under the same salary cap as other teams.'"
Like who?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"=#BF0000And what if the owners (Castleford Tigers) of the stadium in Glasshoughton DON'T want them there?
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There IS a stadium at Glasshoughton AND Castleford Tigers are the ACTUAL OWNERS!!!!!!!!
That was quick and I didn't realise they had been rich enough to buy out the builders of the stadium, the land owners and payback any loans (probably backed by the land) to WMDC.
Don't you learn something every day.
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