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The biggest mard in Super League. Goes hiding for 79 minutes from Morley and Carvell then in the last second cheap shots the smallest man on the pitch.

Coward.

jonathon davies hates him lol

When he first burst onto the scene I thought he was destined to be a great. Sadly, he's just not progressed. As Davies said if he concentrated on making some yards rather than niggling he might be a better player. If Leeds aren't to go backwards I think they'll need to get at lleast one proper prop and two half-backs.

Surprises me how he manages to stay on the field. He can't play, he is just a 'wind up merchant'.

Reminds me of a bully at school good at picking on the little people but when someone bigger or the same size as him squares off to him he don't want to know he's a wind bag he did it when kr beat Leeds few weeks ago with our make shift winger youngster latus knocked him around then Joel Clinton stepped in and he didn't want to know I bet he's proud of it as well

Every team needs a junk yard dog in their pack, simples.

I don't get what he does other than give penalties away. I'm sure when he was young I remember thinking he looked quite good and had a yard of pace for a big lad.

Good defender, doesn't take the ball up enough.

The Most Feared Man In Superleague isn't he?

I wouldn't mess with his Dad though! He took on a robber with a shotgun and won!

Less carries per game and metres per carry than the legend that is Bryn Hargreaves. Misses a greater proportion of his tackles too. That's about his level.

For all the Leeds' fans extollong of his virtues as a niggler, his actions are pretty cringeworthy at times.

Takes all sorts though and the game is better with its pantomime villains like Bailey/Long/Pryce etc

He can show, on occasion, that he can be a very useful prop. He had an excellent game in the semi final for instance.

Then again, for somebody who is supposedly a "waste of space", he gets a disproportionate amount of attention from both opposition players and fans.

If he ever followed through with his hard man routine rather than looking terrified (Carvell, Blair, Sculthorpe, Lauaki from memory) people would soon shut up. He's like the playground bully, cheap shots on wingers but nowhere to be seen when the big boys stand up to him. Nobody likes the playground bully except his mates, and nobody likes Bailey except Leeds fans.

I find it all quite entertaining.

Bailey had potential but has never reached it. For years he's been no 3 or 4 in the pecking order of Leeds props and the disappointing thing about that is that he keeps getting overtaken. Burgess, for example, has surpassed him over the last couple of years. With Peacock and Burgess out in the cup final, Leeds really needed him to stand up and say "I can be the top guy" and take the game to Morley and Carvell but he didn't. At this stage of his career, I don't think he ever will. All of which isn't to say that he's a bad player - he's just never made the step up to top player.

Do Leeds fans like him though? I'd love to see Stu Dickens of Featherstone given a chance in SL, I rate him higher than Bailey.

Certainly is entertaining, especially when you look back to see where the tag TMFMISL came from - it was a joke between two posters, its now developed to legend status on ss.com and it now niggles posters from other clubs in the same way that Bailey niggles on the field, non-one could have written that script

They are embarassing stats.

Just think, the Leeds fans think hes good enough for England. So maybe Bryn should get the nod too

This thread again?

He is a "nobody likes me and i dont care" character. A pantomine villain and basically just a bully like people have said. I saw Carvell square up to him in the CC Final and he just pawed him away, if it had been a winger or a centre like Atkins then i think he would have taken him on.

Can we leave him alone now? It's getting very boring and laughable.

If he hadn't of tried to be such a hardman at Wembley and bulldoze Mathers out the way, and gone low instead, he would have scored the first try!!

He's a prop, not a hooker.

Stick him under a washing line then , all he's fit for

So he doesn't know how to dive then? He's worse than I thought!

dickens played half a season of SL with salford in their return to SL (can't remember which of the 3 it was) season, and slinked off back to fev with no fanfare.

What difference does that make? Are you saying that because hes a prop he can not go low to score a try?



Bailey seen it was Mathers and thought he'd be able to knock him out the way and he failed miserable. To be honest, he could have just run on a slight angle and Mathers wouldn't have been able to get under the ball. Or as others have said, if he goes low theres no way Mathers is stopping him.