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in a day when haven go into admin and reports of the london quins struggling one team anounce to have made a profit from the lowly championship
www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=2519
lets see them keep them out this time
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in a day when haven go into admin and reports of the london quins struggling one team anounce to have made a profit from the lowly championship
www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=2519
lets see them keep them out this time
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Quote ="the day will come"in a day when haven go into admin and reports of the london quins struggling one team anounce to have made a profit from the lowly championship
www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=2519
lets see them keep them out this time'"
i hope you make it fella
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Quote ="the day will come"in a day when haven go into admin and reports of the london quins struggling one team anounce to have made a profit from the lowly championship
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lets see them keep them out this time'"
i hope you make it fella
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| But they should keep them out.
Last time they were in they were relegated, went bankrupt and had poor crowds. They shouldn't get back in ever.
There is Super League at Widnes anyway, why do they want two clubs in the same area (3 if you include Wire) that play in the same stadium???
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| Why would they want a club who are making a loss, playing in a dump and have to beg to play in Widnes in Superleague .
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| Quote ="Saddened!"But they should keep them out.
Last time they were in they were relegated, went bankrupt and had poor crowds. They shouldn't get back in ever.
There is Super League at Widnes anyway, why do they want two clubs in the same area (3 if you include Wire) that play in the same stadium???'"
Nice try mucka, Widnes managed respectable crowds despite a miserable final two seasons in SL.
Maybe having two teams in the Wakefield district is in fact a greater wrong, given that they both play out of stadiums unfit for Britain's travelling population.
Widnes will put forward a stronger bid than quite a few of the current stragglers of SL, fact.
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| Quote ="richardviking"Widnes will put forward a stronger bid than quite a few of the current stragglers of SL, fact.'"
True, but so would quite a few amateur clubs in Yorkshire and it's not likely to happen.
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Quote ="the day will come"in a day when haven go into admin and reports of the london quins struggling one team anounce to have made a profit from the lowly championship
www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=2519
lets see them keep them out this time'"
They made a profit that would be because they've spent less on players and finished mid table with no pressure to get results due to been given the green light. a bit of a mockery don't you think.
Good luck to Widnes all the same.
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Quote ="the day will come"in a day when haven go into admin and reports of the london quins struggling one team anounce to have made a profit from the lowly championship
www.widnesvikings.co.uk/article.php?id=2519
lets see them keep them out this time'"
They made a profit that would be because they've spent less on players and finished mid table with no pressure to get results due to been given the green light. a bit of a mockery don't you think.
Good luck to Widnes all the same.
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| Quote But they should keep them out.
Last time they were in they were relegated, went bankrupt and had poor crowds. They shouldn't get back in ever.
There is Super League at Widnes anyway, why do they want two clubs in the same area (3 if you include Wire) that play in the same stadium???'"
How does being relegated in 2005 mean we shouldn't get back in ever?
We never went bankrupt in Super League and actually had the 7th best crowds in the league one year, higher than one of the clubs that are going to Wembley tomorrow.
Why should Salford, Wakey, Castleford, Hull KR etc be given a permanent place in Super League and Widnes not be allowed in?
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"They made a profit
that would be because they've spent less on players and finished mid table with no pressure to get results due to been given the green light. a bit of a mockery don't you think.
Good luck to Widnes all the same.'"
We spent to the cap, what more could we have done?.
This shows a very well run club and shows what can be done when a club is run properly. Also take into consideration that at the same time as posting these results we are running a full youth set up ( one of if not the best in the country at the moment ).
Im amazed at these results if im honest.
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| I'm sceptical of the validity of the results, mainly because we lost £1m last year. Maybe the results have just turned out that way.
However being debt free is an achievement for any Rugby League club, that's what I'm most pleased about.
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| workington have also posted a profit this season i believe.
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"How does being relegated in 2005 mean we shouldn't get back in ever?
We never went bankrupt in Super League and actually had the 7th best crowds in the league one year, higher than one of the clubs that are going to Wembley tomorrow.
Why should Salford, Wakey, Castleford, Hull KR etc be given a permanent place in Super League and Widnes not be allowed in?'"
Location, location, location. If Widnes were to relocate to somewhere out of their position sandwiched between two much bigger clubs in an already overcrowded catchment area their application may be more appealing.
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| Quote ="BIGAL1"They made a profit
that would be because they've spent less on players and finished mid table with no pressure to get results due to been given the green light. a bit of a mockery don't you think.
Good luck to Widnes all the same.'"
The last person who should be saying that Widnes have made a mockery of the system is a Wakefield fan!
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| Quote ="Maximus Decimus"I'm sceptical of the validity of the results, mainly because we lost £1m last year. Maybe the results have just turned out that way.
However being debt free is an achievement for any Rugby League club, that's what I'm most pleased about.'"
think we showed a loss last year due to the buy out and re-structuring cost showing up in the accounts they have now gone we are in profit
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| Quote ="Saddened!"But they should keep them out.
Last time they were in they were relegated, went bankrupt and had poor crowds. They shouldn't get back in ever.
There is Super League at Widnes anyway, why do they want two clubs in the same area (3 if you include Wire) that play in the same stadium???'"
Pretty lucky for Widnes then that d[ii[/icks like you don't have any say in the matter eh?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Location, location, location. If Widnes were to relocate to somewhere out of their position sandwiched between two much bigger clubs in an already overcrowded catchment area their application may be more appealing.'"
How is the location of Castleford, Wakefield and Hull KR more appealing?
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Location, location, location. If Widnes were to relocate to somewhere out of their position sandwiched between two much bigger clubs in an already overcrowded catchment area their application may be more appealing.'"
Makes no sense at all.
The catchment area of Widnes is the Borough of Halton. A pop of arround 120k Thats before we go into Liverpool, an area where Saints are our only real competition for supporters of Rugby league.
To say this area is overcrowded is nonsense.
Give it 6 years of SL, with Ste O running the club and i predict we will be seeing bigger crowds than Saints, with healthier financial results and a better youth policy.
Wire, is a harder target but one i believe we can overcome. I have never been so impressed with what Widnes are doing, and honestly feel with the people we have running the club currently the sky is the limit.
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| Quote ="TonyGee"Makes no sense at all.
The catchment area of Widnes is the Borough of Halton. A pop of arround 120k Thats before we go into Liverpool, an area where Saints are our only real competition for supporters of Rugby league.
To say this area is overcrowded is nonsense.
Give it 6 years of SL, with Ste O running the club and i predict we will be seeing bigger crowds than Saints, with healthier financial results and a better youth policy.
Wire, is a harder target but one i believe we can overcome. I have never been so impressed with what Widnes are doing, and honestly feel with the people we have running the club currently the sky is the limit.'"
Incredibly lofty ambitions there. What crowds do you reckon Saints will be getting for Widnes to be beating them?
Why would Warrington be a harder target? They are limited by a stadium that is at least 5,000 spaces too small for them.
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| Ignore the dumb Saints idiot, he is just on a wind up and never has anything interesting to say anyway.
What amazing news for the club. Considering our crowds aren't much different between now and before, this just goes to show how different a change in ownership can bring. We've not just met the RFL's criteria for one million pound turnover, we have obliterated it. When some clubs are asking for sky money early, we are posting very healthy profits.
I am amazed by this news.
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| Wiiiiiiiddddddddddnnnnnnnnnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss
Get in there.
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| Quote ="Chris Dalton"Ignore the dumb Saints idiot, he is just on a wind up and never has anything interesting to say anyway.
What amazing news for the club. Considering our crowds aren't much different between now and before, this just goes to show how different a change in ownership can bring. We've not just met the RFL's criteria for one million pound turnover, we have obliterated it. When some clubs are asking for sky money early, we are posting very healthy profits.
I am amazed by this news.'"
Amazed is not the word Chris
Cleverly done I,ll admit , lose 1 million one year , make a million profit the next , all on a turnover of around a million more than you could reasonably expect given your crowds and previous accounts
Nice one Steve
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| Quote ="Starbug"Amazed is not the word Chris
Cleverly done I,ll admit , lose 1 million one year , make a million profit the next , all on a turnover of around a million more than you could reasonably expect given your crowds and previous accounts
Nice one Steve
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Such bitterness but no evidence for your suspicion. Such is your usual way of things.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Incredibly lofty ambitions there. What crowds do you reckon Saints will be getting for Widnes to be beating them?
Why would Warrington be a harder target? They are limited by a stadium that is at least 5,000 spaces too small for them.'"
Because Warrington are a bigger, better run club than saints. With the facilities and a chairman who can make them a success. wire will go from strength to strength for the next few years.
Saints will start rebuilding, And you got what at your peak? 9.5k avg. Knock 2k off that easy when you are a top 6 team only. Widnes can match that, especially with SL funding and a chairman with a bit of vision.
I dont think i have lofty ambitions, i think my ambitions are the clubs ambitions. Our chairman wouldnt be here if he wanted us to make up the numbers.
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| Excellent set of results for Widnes.
Shows what can be achieved in the lower leagues with a club run professionally.
A turnover of £2.5 million with no Sky money to speak of along with almost no away support turning up at their ground shows that they must be doing a lot off the field.
Add in £1.3 million sky money along with increased gate money and sponsorships, and they would probably turnover £4 - £5 million in SL.
As for the Widnes speccies saying they would be bigger than Saints. I think he is living on cloud cookoo land. Even when Widnes had Offiah and co in the late 1980's and Saints were crap, we still had more fans.
Wire however is a different proposition. They are at present perhaps in the greatest period of their clubs history, playing in a modern stadium, yet are still getting lower crowds than Saints.
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| rfl will have a say still
they will give quins £££
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