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www.foxsports.com.au/shows/nrltactics
anybody interested in a discussion on RL tactics?
things like slide defence, up and in. unders and overs lines.
surrender and dominant tackles.
bodies in motion
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www.foxsports.com.au/shows/nrltactics
anybody interested in a discussion on RL tactics?
things like slide defence, up and in. unders and overs lines.
surrender and dominant tackles.
bodies in motion
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| I do like the idea of looking at tactics for coming week. I'd like to see what Raper and Kimmorley would say, and then look to see what happened the week after
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| Would be a very short programme if they ever got Richard Agar as a special guest.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Would be a very short programme if they ever got Richard Agar as a special guest.
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You are aware of his dylexia aren't you?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"You are aware of his dylexia aren't you?
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| Surrender and dominant tackles aren't related to tactics.
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| Quote ="headhunter"Surrender and dominant tackles aren't related to tactics.'"
so coaches dont tell their players to achieve surrender tackles, they happen by coincidence
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| Speaking of tactics, there has been a huge number of scrum moves in the NRL this year.
So much for that insightful poster who claimed scrums are a waste of time in our game. I seem to recall he also has a peculiar fixation for the Welsh union backline.
As I said at the time, scrums remain a crucial attacking platform. If teams don't utilise it (as the evidence above in fact shows they [ido[/i), that is an issue for the coach and team tactics - not a reason to remove the scrum from the game.
Irrespective of whether or not the scrum itself constitutes more of a contest.*
Leaving aside the scrum's imperfect design, I believe it is better to make them at least resemble the contest they once were.
*which in my humble opinion it should...
In the meantime, with the use of the 40/20 kick especially, they remain a crucial part of the attacking repertoire for a quality rugby league side.
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| anyway :
unders line is when the attackers run a line back towards the PTB whilst an overs line is when the attack goes outside / away from the PTB
unders lines are used to catch holes in slide defences on the inside, or slow markers at the ruck
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| Quote ="Gijou"Speaking of tactics, there has been a huge number of scrum moves in the NRL this year.
So much for that insightful poster who claimed scrums are a waste of time in our game. I seem to recall he also has a peculiar fixation for the Welsh union backline.
As I said at the time, scrums remain a crucial attacking platform. If teams don't utilise it (as the evidence above in fact shows they [ido[/i), that is an issue for the coach and team tactics - not a reason to remove the scrum from the game.
Irrespective of whether or not the scrum itself constitutes more of a contest.*
Leaving aside the scrum's imperfect design, I believe it is better to make them at least resemble the contest they once were.
*which in my humble opinion it should...
In the meantime, with the use of the 40/20 kick especially, they remain a crucial part of the attacking repertoire for a quality rugby league side.'"
yeah the tigers and raiders do make good use of scrums for set moves.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"yeah the tigers and raiders do make good use of scrums for set moves.'"
The Tigers yesterday were a breath of fresh air from the scrums. I dont understand why more teams dont try things. My HullFC team seem to just drop a forward out of the scrum and take a non-expansive drive to set up for the next 3 drives.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"The Tigers yesterday were a breath of fresh air from the scrums. I dont understand why more teams dont try things. My HullFC team seem to just drop a forward out of the scrum and take a non-expansive drive to set up for the next 3 drives.'"
scored a try from an excellent switch from the scrum against warrington
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| bodies in motion refers to both defence and attack
in attack its getting runners with the ball carrier, rather than the ball carrier running one out
if you run one out its easy to pile on defenders and stop the attacking momentum with dominant tacklers
if you have a few runners going with the man the ball its harder for defenders to pile onto the man with the ball as they have to mark the decoy runners in case they get the ball
so having runners allows for quicker play the balls
in defence of course you want 2 or 3 tacklers on the ball carrier to slow it down and set your line
if you can "turtle" the ball carrier by getting him on his back even better.
the whole idea of defence is not just to make the tackle but to slow the PTB down so you can re-set your defensive line
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| Quote ="number 6"scored a try from an excellent switch from the scrum against warrington'"
We did but i can count on one hand the number of tries we've scored from scrums in the last 3 seasons.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"We did but i can count on one hand the number of tries we've scored from scrums in the last 3 seasons.'"
hudds away last season?
the only others i can think of is bradford at home in the play offs and warrington away the same season
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| Quote ="number 6"hudds away last season?
the only others i can think of is bradford at home in the play offs and warrington away the same season'"
We've scored 3 this season.
Hally full lengther and the Tansey try from Turner grubber too.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"bodies in motion refers to both defence and attack
in attack its getting runners with the ball carrier, rather than the ball carrier running one out
if you run one out its easy to pile on defenders and stop the attacking momentum with dominant tacklers
if you have a few runners going with the man the ball its harder for defenders to pile onto the man with the ball as they have to mark the decoy runners in case they get the ball
so having runners allows for quicker play the balls
in defence of course you want 2 or 3 tacklers on the ball carrier to slow it down and set your line
if you can "turtle" the ball carrier by getting him on his back even better.
the whole idea of defence is not just to make the tackle but to slow the PTB down so you can re-set your defensive line'"
Does this clown think we have never watched the game before?
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Does this clown think we have never watched the game before?'"
The funny thing, he hasnt (watched the game that is).
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| Quote ="dally messenger"so coaches dont tell their players to achieve surrender tackles, they happen by coincidence
'" I doubt they do tell players to surrender in the tackle, since this would result in a slower play the ball for their team...
Seriously though dally, all you've done on this thread is listed a couple of commonly used buzzwords and terms, it doesn't show that you've got any sort of understanding other than you can perhaps identify and name certain things that I would expect an u14s player to know about. Although you do have a point that there is an alarming lack of knowledge about the game from the majority of fans, who are often then so quick to criticise a coach without actually knowing what is going on.
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| Quote ="Tommy Duckfingers"Does this clown think we have never watched the game before?'"
watched it = yes
understood all the subleties = ?
im here to help
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| Quote ="dally messenger"im here to help'"
You could help by requesting this thread be locked because it's the most boring attempt ever to make yourself look remotely knowledgable and interesting.
Epic fail.
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| Quote ="littlerich"You could help by requesting this thread be locked because it's the most boring attempt ever to make yourself look remotely knowledgable and interesting.
Epic fail.'"
Ask him how many games hes been to recently, even living a stones throw from the grounds
He just repeats what someone else posts on LU
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"We did but i can count on one hand the number of tries we've scored from scrums in the last 3 seasons.'"
It's the same for nearly every team which is what Giggedygiggedy doesn't understand.
I'd like to see the 10m idea given a shot, if teams continue to use the current tactic then replace it.
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| Quote ="littlerich"You could help by requesting this thread be locked because it's the most boring attempt ever to make yourself look remotely knowledgable and interesting.
Epic fail.'"
yeah sure you guys knew what these terms meant.
heres another thing to look for
in some teams the fullback is now acting as a 3rd playmaker, often acting as a 2nd receiver.
brett hogdson used to do it at the eels, hayne does it for the eels
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| look at the use of decoy runners to create gaps in the defence.
another example of bodies in motion
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