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This could have major ramifications not only for those two clubs mentioned , but also for the Grand Final being played at Old Trafford and also the Challenge cup final at Wembley. It could also affect Huddersfield and Sheffield Eagles if the rules find their way into lower division football as well.
International RL would no longer be allowed at the likes of the DW or KC. Never mind having a desire to move games to bigger venues.
RL fans will need to keep a close eye on how the Premiership react.
Indeed if the soccer authorities try to pass this rule, then RL fans would need to start lobbying parliament
After all Hulls KC was built with public money as a multi use community stadium.
Wigans DW or JJB as it was formerly known also had some council investment in it.
Huddersfields ground is i understand 1/3rd owned by the council.
The biggest one of the lot would be Wembley which was built as the so called National Stadium at huge expense, but it now appears as if Football just want it for themselves.
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This could have major ramifications not only for those two clubs mentioned , but also for the Grand Final being played at Old Trafford and also the Challenge cup final at Wembley. It could also affect Huddersfield and Sheffield Eagles if the rules find their way into lower division football as well.
International RL would no longer be allowed at the likes of the DW or KC. Never mind having a desire to move games to bigger venues.
RL fans will need to keep a close eye on how the Premiership react.
Indeed if the soccer authorities try to pass this rule, then RL fans would need to start lobbying parliament
After all Hulls KC was built with public money as a multi use community stadium.
Wigans DW or JJB as it was formerly known also had some council investment in it.
Huddersfields ground is i understand 1/3rd owned by the council.
The biggest one of the lot would be Wembley which was built as the so called National Stadium at huge expense, but it now appears as if Football just want it for themselves.
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Sounds absolutely awesome. Can they bring it in just in time for the franchise applications to be looked at? No stadium to play at = FAIL! Fingers crossed.
So Wigan are out. I'd let Hull stay as I like them.
But a serious point in all this is that the planning permission would never in a million years be granted for new stadium sights with single use plans. Won't happen. Having multi-use aspects is one of the only reasons those stadiums were built in the first place.
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I hate soccer at times like this, correction, i hate soccer full stop.
I can't wait for them to try and push this through only to get told where to get off.
Smarmy buggers
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And let's see how they make up the earnings from the 15 or so extra times a year the stadia are used and the income (rent, percentage of food/drink sales etc.) that a 'ban' on other sports would have. Not that I think it will happen. And on Wembley, aren't 'we' (the RFL) some kind of partner in it?
When blaming Rugby League for the state of the pitch, of course, Sale is talking a load of rollocks...look at Headingley, where League hasn't buggered it up, nor the Piedome, where the worn areas are in the middle, where the footballers mainly play. Funny that.
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| Quote ="t-r-i-n-i-t-y"And let's see how they make up the earnings from the 15 or so extra times a year the stadia are used and the income (rent, percentage of food/drink sales etc.) that a 'ban' on other sports would have. Not that I think it will happen. And on Wembley, aren't 'we' (the RFL) some kind of partner in it?'"
I can't help but think there will be a contract in place for events like the CC Final. You don't just host it at Wembley on a verbal agreement thats its okay and I doubt very much the FA would have the power to rewrite contracts. Wembley isn't the major talking point here. One league game isn't going to have a big effect unless it's an absolute washout, which is rare as most finals have taken place in glorious sunshine.
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T*****S. the KC pitch is perfect at the end of SL season. The KC belongs to the people of Hull so the Premier League and Hull City need to be looking for another venue for next season(if they dont get relegated)
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This overlooks the fact that the stadia are owned by third parties with whom the various clubs have long term leases (seem to remember that Wigan's is 99 years). Either sloppy journalism or the Premier League looking at ways to exclude clubs that it doesn't want in its nice, shiny competition.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"I can't help but think there will be a contract in place for events like the CC Final. You don't just host it at Wembley on a verbal agreement thats its okay and I doubt very much the FA would have the power to rewrite contracts. '"
I'm sure most clubs don't use grounds on the basis of a verbal agreement either, not just Wembley. I think Hull FC have a 90+ year agreement (but I'm ready to be corrected).
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| Quote ="The Chronicler of Chiswic"This overlooks the fact that the stadia are owned by third parties with whom the various clubs have long term leases (seem to remember that Wigan's is 99 years). Either =#FF0000sloppy journalism or the Premier League looking at ways to exclude clubs that it doesn't want in its nice, shiny competition.'"
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Chelsea palyed most of the season on an abysmal pitch a few years ago. Nothing was said. This is more to do with a way of the clique that is the Premier League finding a way to expel clubs like Wigan Athletic and Hull City and to prevent them being able to get back in. The PL doesn't care about RL enough to want to evict our clubs. It just gives them a way to eject clubs like Wigan Athletic that don't put as much in their coffers but that seem to avoid relegation each year so can't be dumped under current rules.
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don't think HFC have much to worry about given the Tigers performances. The pitch is the least of their worries!
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Wembley should be unaffected, they've layed tarmac at pitch level in the past so a league game isn't going to affect it. Besides they over spent so much they need every single event going to make it viable.
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I don't know about Wigan but in the case of the KC it will be Hull City who are put in a worse position than FC. It is a council owned stadium and we have a 99 year lease of the ground (or we did when it was built, will be about 92 now). This means either it's up to City to find somewhere else to play or they have to give us some very hefty compensation. And they don't have the money to do either.
Besides, it won't be an issue at all when they go down next month.
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The DW Stadium was built on the premise that it was a dual purpose stadium, Wigan have a 50+ year lease there.
If the Premier League want us & Hull FC out, they should build new stadia for the football teams if anything, as the rugby teams can actually sell out their grounds once or twice a year.
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I was sort of surprised that the piece wasnt dated 1st April... The premier league pitches were a wreck before mid Feb, and Mark (Lawro) Lawrenson was to be heard blaming the RL for the state of the pitch at Wigan before a set of 6 had been played on it! Might have something to do with the proper winter we've had at last (when grass actually stops growing!)
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| Quote ="NS"I was sort of surprised that the piece wasnt dated 1st April... The premier league pitches were a wreck before mid Feb, and Mark (Lawro) Lawrenson was to be heard blaming the RL for the state of the pitch at Wigan before a set of 6 had been played on it! Might have something to do with the proper winter we've had at last (when grass actually stops growing!)'"
Why Lawrenson is employed as an 'expert' by the BBC is a mystery, when he hasn't got a clue on anything! As you say, rugby league doesn't ruin pitches over a season - the main reason is weather. Belle Vue had Super League and two football teams playing there for 2 or 3 years and the pitch was perfect thanks to the elements being able to get in and a groundsman/staff working hard on it - in my non-gardening opinion anyway! |
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This is just a load of hyped up nonsense.
How exactly do the FA plan to override any leases or covenants that are in place? If anything, if the FA rule that hooliganball ONLY may be played on any pitch in use by a Premier League side, then it will be the hooliganball side that has to relocate.
Either that, or the FA will need to heavily compensate the rugby teams forced to relocate. So it won't happen.
Anyway, I'm done with arguing the toss over who ruins pitches. If you look at the average state of a football pitch and where the wear and tear is, then it's obvious who causes the damage.
But given that hooliganball by its very nature appeals to the lowest common denominator, it's not surprising that they can't see the obvious, is it?
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wake up and smell the coffee.
money talks. and on the grand scheme RL are small fry.
however it is absolute nonsense that the rugby wrecks pitches but what do the facts matter?
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If I remember correctly thr RFL are a stakeholder in the Wembley stadium.
Rugby League was used as part of the reasoning for the funding application and funding was granted on that basis. Wembley does not belong to the FA!
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It's a ridiculous story even with regards to DW and KC, but there's nothing in there to suggest Wembley would be affected, it being about a vote of Premier League clubs about Premier League pitches.
They need every game they can get at Wembley. They have Gridiron and Monster Trucks there, for goodness sake, so Rugby League is hardly in danger, although they might do well to ban Feka from playing there.
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What a load of tosh that article is! The worst pitch in SL is Leeds Rhinos, they need to kick the Tykes out!
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If playing rugby leads to ruined football pitches them how come [url=http://www.liberty-stadium.com/home_news_view.php?news_id=469this guy[/url won an award?
And i'd go as far to say that playing kick and clap would be far worse for a pitch than league because of all the contested scrums and piling on they get up to.
I went to Spotland and Boundary Park last season and i'd go as far to say they were the best pitches i'd seen all year, they were like bowling greens.
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| Quote ="joburg"What a load of tosh that article is! The worst pitch in SL is Leeds Rhinos, they need to kick the Tykes out!'"
Their biggest problem...Ban the cricket |
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