www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -rn8t.html now he has to be consistant ellis on the other hand has been quiet but flanagan is going quite well

www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... -rn8t.html now he has to be consistant ellis on the other hand has been quiet but flanagan is going quite well

please, finally? He has been one of Sth's best forwards, and the kid is only 21 ffs! Name me another 21 year old forward in the NRL that is even close to him.

Ellis has been strong as ever and Flannigan is the find of the season so far in the forwards.

Typical e aussie press.

ellis isnt performing as well as last year

burgess hasnt lived up to the hype until yesterday

lets see how long it takes him to back it up

unlike SL, one good performance every 4 weeks isnt enough to cut it in the nrl and be considered good.

Ellis has been outstanding in three of the four games he has played and was named man of the match on sunday against the Raiders by ABC's commentary team.

You know, you really are allowed to have an opinion of your own... you don’t have to base all your thoughts on newspaper articles

The voice of reason never stopped Dally from keep quoting himself to look like many people are agreeing

That's an odd judgement. Farah was the one with the game winning plays. Ellis does not feature in the leading hitups/metres chart, and while he was equal second highest tackler (with four others), he is the only one of those four to be at the top of the mistackle chart.

Ellis has been great in the NRL, but he was probably outside of the top 5 players on Sunday.

since when has living up to hype been a benchmark of ability. you can't blame the kid for the way the Aussie press has built him up. As I have said he is 21 year old forward. Tell me one other 21 year old forward in the NRL that is even close to the performances he has put in so far.

re Ellis, i am guessing you haven't watched any Tigers games? He has been very strong. Again I don't understand what you expect a forward to do. Short of SBW I can't think of one forward that is a game winner. they are there to lay a platform, not to win games.

on a side note the Sth's number 15 in yesterdays game looked very impressive. didn't catch his name.

ellis isnt playing as well as last year

2nd year syndrome

burgess has played 40 mins this year which matches how the media has talked about him

if he doesnt back it up regularly hell have failed.

so far ive been disappointed but hes not their worst forward

im guessing living in england you arent used to having so much media attention given to league

Dumb Aussie thread of the year?

Andrew Johns never lived up to the "hype" either bar 40 minutes over here. Matt King never lived up to his "hype" either til last season. Ditto Michael Monaghan.
Morley had a poor first year in the NRL then became one of the best once settled.

Give the lad chance to settle in the country, never mind settle playing in a new team with new techniques, set plays and defence structures. You say "finally" like he's been there for a year and was yet to impress.

lote tuqiri came back from not playing league for 7 years and has starred

some people match the hype, some dont

im sure burgess didnt ask for all the media but hes failed to match it

Lote Tuqiri - How old is he now, 33/34 - He's been there, done it, bought the T-Shirt etc. Not a 21 year old just turned up on the other side of the world for the first time, with a different team for the first time. The words 'get a grip spring to mind'.

poor burgess

before the season started souths forwards talked of being the best in the nrl

in their first game against last years wooden spooners they came out breathing fire for 20 mins, then got belted.

burgess is learning the nrl is more than putting one big hit in the quad nations

every week you will be tested in the forwards

Do you honestly think living up to the hype is the mark of a good player? It says in that article that he is tipped to be the best British import ever. Does that mean he will be a failure if he doesn't surpass Ellery Hanley?

by the standards set by the media, absolutely.

souths needs to make top 4. thats pretty much the test

@ Dally

I have watched all Souffs games this season and Burgess, with Tayloy, have been thier only 2 decent forwards before yesterday. In fact that was the tactics used. Give it to Sam and see what happens. He has been pushing 30 tackles a game and is making 120m + a game. The kids not superman. He's never going to score 2 tries a game every week. He will put on the occasional big hit though and make metres for fun. Seriously, watch him. He never gets dominated in tge tackle. He always finds his front and the majority of the time is stood looking for tge offload with 2 people hanging off him.

Unfortunately Aussies will always bag 'pomes'(that's the first time aussies will know how it's spelt) but if you talk to supporters of the players club you find out the truth.

Purlease. Up until this week "being Souffs best forward" has meant SFA. However, well done this week.


Aiden Tolman.
And frankly I wouldn't swap Tolman for Burgess and a new Porche.

you must be watching with your eyes closed

taylor has been terrible

up until yesterday burgess has been amongst the best in a very poor forward pack

remember souths got thrashed by the roosters under rated pack

where was burgess then?

rubbish, morley earned his praise here

ellis was good last year and so far has been average

you are aware the tigers defence is terrible? ellis is one of the worst suspects

the tigers have zero defence, thats the forwards fault

good call on tolman

after seeing his performance on friday, i was amazed the storm can just keep producing players like this

really? You'd have Tolman over Burgess? I'm a Storm fan and I'd swap them any day of the week. Come on Rusty you know it makes sense, well to dawn patrol anyway!

Tolman is a great young prop in the making, plenty of metres made and tackles where as Burgess is a great attacking 2nd row, featuring in offloads, try scorers and breaks top 20 stat lists.