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| Just watching Keighley vs Batley, Keighley kick on the last and it hits the the ref, Leahy I believe, decision is given as a scrum to Keighley. Surely being on the last it should be a turnover, or else you'd find attacking teams trying to hit the referee on the last tackle all the time in order to gain another set? Odd.
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| Very odd. He was adamant that it was a correct call. Seemed very harsh on Batley. Then again he gave a joke forward pass moments later.
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| And now, "Knock on - Try".
WTF?
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| Correct decision I think
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"Correct decision I think'"
That's what I thought. I've not seen the incident but seem to remember the rule saying that if the ball hits teh ref it's a scrum with the feed to the attacking team.
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| Quote ="Iain"That's what I thought. I've not seen the incident but seem to remember the rule saying taht of teh ball hits teh ref it's a scrum with the feed to the attacking team.'"
Yep, that is the rule, but on the last? Seems strange.
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Yep, that is the rule, but on the last? Seems strange.'"
I suppose the kicking team are still classed as attacking until the other team gathers the ball.
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| So therefore, kicking at the ref on a regular basis could be a reasonable idea, if you get another 6. I wonder if anyone will try it
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"So therefore, kicking at the ref on a regular basis could be a reasonable idea, if you get another 6. I wonder if anyone will try it
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Hopefully kicking smack into his face or personal area.
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| Correct call
definition of attacking team is the team with territorial advantage not possession of ball
and he didn't say knock on - try he said clock on
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| Its the same as off loading at the same time the ref calls held. Its an attcking scrum regardless of the tackle count.
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| Quote ="AlfieMoon"Its the same as off loading at the same time the ref calls held. Its an attcking scrum regardless of the tackle count.'"
It does seem odd that an attacking team can get a second set for just being "accurate" when kicking. Does the ref have the option of a handover if he thinks it was a deliberate action, or are his hands tied?
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| Quote ="south of the river"
and he didn't say knock on - try he said clock on'"
Thanks for that
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| My mate's happy. Leahy is his tutor at school.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"It does seem odd that an attacking team can get a second set for just being "accurate" when kicking. Does the ref have the option of a handover if he thinks it was a deliberate action, or are his hands tied?'"
I wouldnt think that there will be an option for refs discretion, although i'm not sure (Ganson chose to ignore a rule at Cas/Rovers the other week )
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| Yup correct call, if it had hit him when standing in goal it would have been a try.
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Yup correct call, if it had hit him when standing in goal it would have been a try.'"
Jog on, that can't be right?
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| Quote ="Panda92"My mate's happy. Leahy is his tutor at school.'"
What does he teach?
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| Thats a new one on me
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| What's the ruling if the ball sinks beneath all that mud?
I'm too young for this to have been the 'norm' in rugby league as I've only been watching since the summer area - certainly great for novelty factor and I bet plenty on here will argue "that's how the game should be played"...
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Yup correct call, if it had hit him when standing in goal it would have been a try.'"
Say what?
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| Quote ="Big Graeme"Yup correct call, if it had hit him when standing in goal it would have been a try.'"
Spot on. Someones been reading the rulebook.
Quote ="Secton 6, paragraph 3(e)"
an attacking player carrying the ball comes into
contact with the Referee or a Touch Judge or an
encroaching spectator in the opponents’ in-goal
and play is thereby irregularly affected.'"
The same would apply if the ball is kicked by the attacking team (with territorial advantage) as play has still been irregularly affected.
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| Thats not right, as mentionned
Quote an attacking player carrying the ball comes into
contact with the Referee or a Touch Judge or an
encroaching spectator in the opponents’ in-goal
and play is thereby irregularly affected.'"
But if the ball is kicked at the referee its a goal line drop out
Quote Drop-out from 4. The game is restarted with a drop-out by a
Goal line defending player from the centre of his goal line if:
(a) a defending player last touches the ball before it
goes over the dead ball line or into touch in-goal.
(b) a defending player accidentally infringes in the
in-goal area.
(c) a defending player touches down in the in-goal
area.
(d) a defending player in possession is tackled in the
in-goal area.
(e) a defending player kicks the ball into touch on
the full from his own in-goal.
(f) a defending player kicks or passes the ball in his
own in-goal and the ball accidentally strikes an
opponent and goes into touch in-goal or over the
dead ball line.
(g) the ball or a defending player carrying the ball
touches the referee, a touch judge or an
encroaching spectator in the in-goal area and
play is thereby irregularly affected.
(h) the ball goes over the dead ball line or into touch
in-goal other than on the full from a kick off from
the centre of the halfway line .
(i) where a kick is made dead by a defending
player straddling the dead ball line or touch in
goal line.'"
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| anyways thought the ref had a good game tonight given the testing conditions
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