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| What do you reckon then?
1. Owen
2. Ainscough
3. Shenton
4. Watkins
5. Hall
6. S Tomkins
7. Myler
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Hock?
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| Clough for Hock probably, and maybe McIlorum starting (if he's not still playing for Ireland) with Roby coming off the bench.
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| Quote ="Drachen Feuer"Clough for Hock probably, and maybe McIlorum starting (if he's not still playing for Ireland) with Roby coming off the bench.'"
Can he switch to England if he's already played for Ireland though?
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| Who knows what player might emerge over the next 4 years. Maybe a touch early to discuss this one.
The big question is will Stanley Gene play for PNG?
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"Who knows what player might emerge over the next 4 years. Maybe a touch early to discuss this one.
:1tufq4zpThe big question is will Stanley Gene play for PNG?'"
Course he will, as he will have only just turned 30, for about the fourth time!
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| Quote ="Sharpy_4a"Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"Who knows what player might emerge over the next 4 years. Maybe a touch early to discuss this one.
The big question is will Stanley Gene play for PNG?'"
Course he will, as he will have only just turned 30, for about the fourth time!
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I've actually heard is playing for the U21's
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| eastmond instead of myler.
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| Brough has changed to England after captaining Scotland, and Tonie Carrol played for Australia & New Zealand, so don't see why McIlorum couldn't make the switch.
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| I'd have Michael Lawrence before Kallum Watkins. Watkins played for Leeds reserves V Wigan last weekend and didn't impress at all. He was outplayed by both Pryce and Marsh.
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| Quote ="Drachen Feuer"Clough for Hock probably, and maybe McIlorum starting (if he's not still playing for Ireland) with Roby coming off the bench.'"
McIlorum? Moore is way better IMO.
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| Quote ="grovelane"What do you reckon then?
1. Owen
2. Ainscough
3. Shenton
4. Watkins
5. Hall
6. S Tomkins
7. Myler
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Hock?
12. Lockers
13. Westerman
14. J Tomkins
15. Eastmond
16. Ellis
17. LMS'"
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What's to laugh about?
I'd be prepared to bet good money that Hock would be in the England 17 in the next World Cup.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"What's to laugh about?
I'd be prepared to bet good money that Hock would be in the England 17 in the next World Cup.'"
It depends on how he returns from his 2 year ban, he won't exactly be on the top of Tony Smith's (or any other coach that could replace him in the mean time) list. I can see many more quality Enligsh SR's coming through the academies and I don't think that he would be starting for sure, and depending on the qulity of them he could struggle to make the 17...
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| Really strong that team. I'd have Scott Moore in if he continues to progress.
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| Watkins nor Lawrence will be in I don't think. They will only be 22. Who knows what will happen by then though. Tom Briscoe, Mike Burnett, Paul McShane, Wheeler, The Burgess twins could all be in contention.
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| Quote ="grovelane"What do you reckon then?
1. Owen
2. Ainscough
3. Shenton
4. Briscoe
5. Hall
6. S Tomkins
7. Eastmond
8. Graham
9. Moore
10. Burgess
11. Ellis
12. Lockers
13. Westerman
14. J Tomkins
15. Roby
16. L Burgess/Crabtree/Hock/?
17. LMS'"
That's what i'd guess at. May have missed out a couple though. I know Myler's not in there
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| 1. Briscoe or Owen
2. Ainscough
3. Shenton
4. Thornley
5. Hall
6. S Tomkins
7. Eastmond
8. S Burgess
9. Roby
10. Graham
11. Ellis
12. O'Loughlin
13. Westerman
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17. J Tomkins
3 Brothers to play for England (has that ever happened?) and 7 Wiganers in the line up.....the way it should be
Possibly a certain Owen Farrell could be in the mix by then as well...you never know
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"I'd have Michael Lawrence before Kallum Watkins. Watkins played for Leeds reserves V Wigan last weekend and didn't impress at all. He was outplayed by both Pryce and Marsh.'"
We all know that in wigan, the mark of how good a player is, is based on one performance in the reserves.
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| I'd be surprised if the team didn't have 3 burgesses in by the time the world cup comes around. The two younger ones are monsters.
Not seen Owen, but what do you think about Halley at fullback? He switched from Wales to England.
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| Quote ="grovelane"What do you reckon then?
1. Owen
2. Ainscough
3. Shenton
4. Watkins
5. Hall
6. S Tomkins
7. Myler
8. Graham
9. Roby
10. Burgess
11. Hock?
12. Lockers
13. Westerman
14. J Tomkins
15. Eastmond
16. Ellis
17. LMS'"
Those 3 definately won't be in the side. Ainscough will be playing for Swinton or Leigh, Watkins has showed very limited ability so far, likewise Ryan Hall, he has speed and some stregnth but absolutely nothing else. If this is the future I'm worried.
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| Houghton's better than McIllorum anyway. Don't get the hype about him at Wigan. Doubt either will be in to be fair.
And Tom Briscoe will be in the centres.
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| Quote ="Paul124897"I'd be surprised if the team didn't have 3 burgesses in by the time the world cup comes around. The two younger ones are monsters.
Not seen Owen, but what do you think about Halley at fullback? He switched from Wales to England.'"
The Burgess Twins are not good enough imo! Everytime i see them they fail to impress.
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| Quote ="greg th wire"Those 3 definately won't be in the side. Ainscough will be playing for Swinton or Leigh, Watkins has showed very limited ability so far, likewise Ryan Hall, he has speed and some stregnth but absolutely nothing else. If this is the future I'm worried.'"
cant agree at all,
Watkins has shown some super touches, he has the speed strength and skill to be one of the very very best, he is still very young and is still making rookie errors, but with more game time and proper coaching he has all the attributes needed
If ryan hall had speed he would be world class, he doesnt, he has decent speed, is very strong, big, and has a great work ethic, his lack of blistering pace will stop him being a truly world class winger, but his size and work rate mean he should have no problem at international level and wouldnt let anyone down,
ainscough is where lee smith was three years ago, he has that obvious eyecatching innate ability to beat a man, that unteachable skill of being through the gap everyone else has just noticed, and is suprisingly strong, but he still has some fundemental flaws in his game, but again he is very young, brought on correctly he could be a truly world class winger
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| The fact that anyone would even attempt to pick an England team 4 years out from the competition says it all.
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