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| Watching Wigan v Wire and these type of games with close finishes really attract the punter to the game, so why not change the conversion law to give the option to the side scoring a try whether they take time off the clock to take the kick. I have been to many games where one side is winning by 10 points with 2 mins to go and the game as gone because the clock will be run down. If there are 12 tries in a game, 12 minutes is taken away from the game to watch a bloody kick. On the opposite side of the coin if a side winning by 4 points score a try in 78 minutes then they can allow the clock to run its course, as a reward of scoring a try. What do you think???
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| Teams can already decline the conversion. End of thread.
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| Think your missing the point, you can gain 2 points without taking time off the clock. 10 points down with 2 mins to play, score a try and kick conversion you will have 2 mins to score a try/conversion and win the game. Even when they decline the kick the clock doesn't stop immediately. In your case 8 points down with 2 mins to play, score a try lose 30 seconds and you have 90 seconds to score a try/conversion to draw the game. Thread open.
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| Make the kicker quicker.
Hey that rhymes.
Thread closed again.
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| So essentially the scoring team can choose to include the conversion in the remaining time or not?
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| the scoring team as the option to let the clock run or stop it immediately. This means a team which is losing, gains more time to force a result is my thinking. I enjoy watching sport with a nail biting ending, where players are put under pressure to gain the result and the clutch players come to the fore and create more theatre. People always remember Wide to West (Saints v Bradford) You also get the bonus of watching more rugby, rather than watching a minute taken up kicking a goal as per rugby union!!!
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| No matter how quick the kicker is, time is only stopped when the TJ's get to the opposite corner flag.
This always take a minute, so time will always drag.
Hey that ryhmes.
Thread OOOOPPPPPPPEEEENNNNNNN!!!!!
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| I think it should be the clock is stopped as soon as the try is scored and is not restarted until the conceding team kicks off. However, there should be a kick clock. Once the ref and touch judges are in position, the kicker has 60 seconds to take his kick. If he hasn't taken the kick in that time the scoring team lose the chance of the conversion.
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| I think it is still in the rules that a conversion does not have to be a place kick it can be a drop kick to make it quicker and you still get the two points.
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| Not sure on the drop kick rule, but tj's still need to get in position and get down to other end of the field.
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| Quote ="boomercricket"Not sure on the drop kick rule, but tj's still need to get in position and get down to other end of the field.'"
i thought the reason for doing it is because the ref can give it himself without the TJs.
Maybe it has changed it must be 30 years since i read the rules and i know a lot has changed.
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| This is a good idea and you're all missing the point.
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| Quote ="roofaldo2"However, there should be a kick clock. Once the ref and touch judges are in position, the kicker has 60 seconds to take his kick.'"
Don't we already have that (at least, for penalty kicks)?
I'm sure Richard Silverwood told Kevin Sinfield that he "has a minute" when he lined up the penalty in the play-off semi-final. That said, I did enjoy that night quite a bit so it's probable that I'm mistaken
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| This is a strange let me about it stop the clock or not
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| I've never understood why the clock runs down 1 minute at a kick off. IMO the clock should stop when the try is scored, begin again when the ball is placed on the tee and then stopped when it has stopped travelling to the goal. Time should then stop again until the ball is back in play from the kick off.
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| Isn't all of this irrelevent anyway? I thought that teams didn't care whether or not they won regular season games .
Thinking about it, what the hell was Lee Briers playing at? Trying to make sure his team didn't lose? Doesn't he know that Warrington will never finish in that highly coveted fifth spot with reckless moves like that?
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Isn't all of this irrelevent anyway? I thought that teams didn't care whether or not they won regular season games .
Thinking about it, what the hell was Lee Briers playing at? Trying to make sure his team didn't lose? Doesn't he know that Warrington will never finish in that highly coveted fifth spot with reckless moves like that?'"
The rule would apply in the play offs as well
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| Is this thread open or closed...I have lost track?
Most time keepers are old men looking to get into games for free, this would confuse the hell out of them!
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| I don't often study the rules but I seem to remember something about the clock starting/stopping after a minute has passed.
More than likely wrong, but I seem to remember ref's waving time on/off behind the kicker a few times.
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| The current rule gives the try scoring team one minute from the moment the try is scored, not from when the officials are in position. Once that minute passes, the clock is stopped.
Also, at the kick off, once one entire team is ready to play, time is called off.
So its simple, if a team scores in the 78th minute and gets themself within a score, they take the kick within a minute, and by the time the kick is taken you'd expect everyone bar the kicker to be ready to receive the kick off. After that, its a simple case of as soon as the touch judges are in position (20 seconds max), the clock stops. That gives the receiving team, at worst, 40 seconds, to win the game.
Wheres this rubbish about two minutes come from?
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| Don't like it. Not necessary.
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| I don't get it. How would this have enhanced the Wigan v Wire game?
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| Quote ="WorldWideSaint"The current rule gives the try scoring team one minute from the moment the try is scored, not from when the officials are in position. Once that minute passes, the clock is stopped.
Also, at the kick off, once one entire team is ready to play, time is called off.
So its simple, if a team scores in the 78th minute and gets themself within a score, they take the kick within a minute, and by the time the kick is taken you'd expect everyone bar the kicker to be ready to receive the kick off. After that, its a simple case of as soon as the touch judges are in position (20 seconds max), the clock stops. That gives the receiving team, at worst, 40 seconds, to win the game.
Wheres this rubbish about two minutes come from?'"
The idea is to give try scoring team the option to use the minute for the conversion kick or stop the clock which doesn't start until the opposition kick off to restart the game.
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| Nah. There's no need to complicate the game further. If the try scoring team are still behind on points then they should have scored earlier.
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| We'd be there all night
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