Sadly I think we all know the answer to that, hence why Barry McKenzie will not bother watching it.





France will be, without doubt, the worst team of the 4.

They will not win a game, they KNOW they wont win a game and can expect teams like NZ and the Kangaroos to put cricket scores past them.

I can see them running England close, even with a 'coach' like Bobbie Goulding at the helm.


my prediction is

England 34

France 20

I agree with you there Barry_McKenzie.

We have a coach who is way out of his depth at International level, only part time and is unprofessional and biased. Some of his team selections are shocking and performances have not improved since he arrived at the scene. I think we will beat France but get smacked by New Zealand and Australia. I just cannot see the improvement in the side from the team that was abysmal at the World Cup.

England need a new full time coach who is Australian and has coached at the highest level and who has no ties to any other club in Super League and who will pick players on merit. It's not much but it would be a start.

I will still go to the England and Australia game to support our national team and the International game. I really want the International game to be a success for the good of our sport. I truly believe it is the greatest game and it deserves better coverage than it gets but sadly until we have a successful international scene our game will not be taken seriously.

England 24 France 20

England/GB ought to throw the money they pay our old/sick/lame/past it pensioners to come to superleague at the legendary Wayne Bennett.

But it's not England who throw money at sick and past it Aussies. That's the Super League clubs.

It's the RFL that should invest in a coach such as Wayne Bennett or Craig Bellamy but if we're realistic that is never going to happen but I am sure we could do much better than Tony Smith!

If I worked for the RFL I would bust my balls to get Wayne Bennett on board in some capacity.

Forget Craig Bellamy....he would never come here.


but Wayne Bennett would....at a price

Look what he did for the Kiwis last year in the world cup



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Agreed. If we have any desire to make England RL a success we should do just that but sadly the RFL have not got a clue. The game is run by idiots.

Part of me feels sorry for the English fans.

They deserve better at international level than the garbage they have been seeing.

Well I think I am going to have to return the favour Barry and put that in the old signature.

Barry_McKenzie in empathising with English fans shocker.

Despite what I may or may not think about England, SL and their national RL side I will admit that the fans do deserve better at the international level.

I was home for a few weeks during the last World cup and my flight to Sydney was full of England RL fans off to follow their team whilst having a good time. I doubt very much if the same amount of Aussies will fly to England for the next one.

If nothing else I do admire their dedication!

It was admirable the support we took over to Australia. I guess it just proves that the interest and support for the International game is there which makes the way our game is run at the moment more annoying!

I wonder if the same amount of supporters would have gone if it had been held in France or somewhere?

As well as knowing deep down that Aussies are the best people in the world and you poms aspire to be just like us (hence your compulsion to buy and wear NRL shirts and drink in Walkabouts

)I think most Poms love Australia almost as much as we do.

I've seldom flown home on a flight thats not full of tourists .......yet coming back to London I was once on a Qantas 747 that had 90 passengers.....on the whole plane

I wasn't complaining though....along with most other passengers I had a row of 4 seats to myself.......I got 9 hours uninterrupted sleep between bangkok and Heathrow

You're from Heckmondwike really aren't u?

Not unless that place has a Tube station with 'Dollis Hill' written on it

In response to your original post I agreed at one point regarding France, of course they're gonna get tonked.
But if you think about it, it's not that bad a thing, it puts them on the international stage and in the Union 6 nations, Italy used to get tonked all the time, shows them where they need to be.
Being involved regularly against the big guns will only help them improve and so what, they get tonked for a few years, its not like Aus arent capable of sticking 50 on England is it.

But since Italy joined the 6 nations exactly WHAT have they ever won???

Franc ewould be competitive at RL but for 2 things.

Their players are pretty poor.

Their 'coach' is not really a coach.


Id sooner have seen Wales play in this 4 nations rather than the French.

See IMHO the reason France look so poor shows how far the Aus/Eng game has come over the last ten years or so.
They've now got more full time and better players than they had years ago and look worse than ever.
It will take time and yes Italy are really poor but they're improving year on year, you should have seen em a few years ago Barry, only need a bitta Benny Hill music and you could watch it for comedy.
France will really improve if they get a second SL team, as it stands at the mo, give it 5 years and Wales will be much better

The French need a big name decent coach.

Bobbie Goulding?? That guy was never destined to be a coach. How on EARTH he got that job I will never know. I suspect it was so it makes France actually look worse at footy than England


If I was in charge of the French RL I would do whatever it took to get Wayne Bennett as national coach.

I'm not saying France will win but they have the potential to give teams a bit of a headache.

Their teams is a lot better than the one that was at the World Cup.

What was their excuse in June, then?

Don't get me started.

If you believe that.....and a lot of people think that England are actually WORSE now than they were last November......are you concerned that England might finish bottom of the 4 nations table?

No. England will beat France and NZ but I doubt they'll beat Australia. I think France had a bad World Cup.

I can't see England beating anyone in this other than France.

But as always with NZ...it depends which team turns up.

If they put in a good performance against Australia on Saturday then they will take on England full of confidence, especially if France play well against England tomorrow.

And a confident Benji Marshall playing well is bad news for anyone

Big hit on his shoulder, problem sorted.