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| Here is the deal. This game will now determine who plays NZ in the final.
If Australia wins then Australia is into the final.
If Samoa wins by 1-7 points then England is into the final.
If Samoa wins by 9 or more then Samoa is into the final.
If Samoa wins by 8 then there could be a mid-week playoff between England and Samoa.
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| I can see Samoa winning but if it's by 8 don't they go on attacking points etc
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| I would be very surprised if Samoa can go a third game with a major nation and keep it as tight.
I'm going for an Australia win by atleast three scores and will be very happy to be proved wrong again!
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| Samoa are getting better the more games they play together and it's a very weak Australian side.
Australia should win, but an upset isn't impossible (If I'd have said that two weeks ago even I would have thought I needed a mental health checkup).
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| Quote ="DropGoalGiant"I can see Samoa winning but if it's by 8 don't they go on attacking points etc'"
I really don't know, but a playoff would be fairer, even though it gives NZ a huge advantage in the final.
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| IMO in the unlikely scenario that Samoa wins by a margin that levels them points wise with England then it should simply come down to the head-to-head record. I know that sounds easy to say as that means England would qualify but surely it any two teams were involved it seems the simplest way? Whoever won the group game between the two, qualifies, simple.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"IMO in the unlikely scenario that Samoa wins by a margin that levels them points wise with England then it should simply come down to the head-to-head record. I know that sounds easy to say as that means England would qualify but surely it any two teams were involved it seems the simplest way? Whoever won the group game between the two, qualifies, simple.'"
It will be that or points for i would say.
No way there is a play off imo.
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| Goes on tries scored doesn't it?
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| Samoa by 2
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| The Aussies will win comfortably in my view. I think Samoa gave everything against the Kiwis last week, and the last minute defeat will have broken them a little.
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| It goes on tries scored ......... currently England have scored 2 more, so we need Samoa to win by less than 8, or by 8 whilst scoring only 1 try ......... if they win by 8 whilst scoring 2 tries, I have no idea what happens.
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| Quote ="nickcat0"It goes on tries scored ......... currently England have scored 2 more, so we need Samoa to win by less than 8, or by 8 whilst scoring only 1 try ......... if they win by 8 whilst scoring 2 tries, I have no idea what happens.'"
I'm only guessing but I think it will go on the result between the two Nations therefore England go through.
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| Every patriotic Englishman needs to support a Toa Samoa victory over Australia --- but by 1 to 7 points only. That way England goes through to the final.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Every patriotic Englishman needs to support a Toa Samoa victory over Australia --- but by 1 to 7 points only. That way England goes through to the final.'"
Now that you've told all of us patriotic Englishmen what we need to do the big question is what should an annoying fake Frenchman support?
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| If only Jean were a real Frenchman. Then all we'd have to do to get rid of him is vote UKIP.
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| Id love Samoa to win not just for England but for the INT game in General
Remember they are playing Australia
I think this is where the Aussies stand up unfortunately I can see Sheens having them well drilled, I can see a big win for them
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| Great try by Castleford's Ben Roberts.
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| Not looking good right now for the chances of the much improved greatest England team since sliced bread because the worst Australian team in living memory are two scores ahead of Toa Samoa after just 12 minutes on the clock.
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| Terrible kick option by Castleford's Ben Roberts.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Not looking good right now for the chances of the much improved greatest England team since sliced bread because the worst Australian team in living memory are two scores ahead of Toa Samoa after just 12 minutes on the clock.'"
Are you watching the game on delay?
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Are you watching the game on delay?'"
Yes, I'm watching it on delay on Channel Nine's WIN TV in outback QLD.
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| Quote ="William Eve"Yes, I'm watching it on delay on Channel Nine's WIN TV in outback QLD.'"
Is anyone else watching it on Premier Sports? Is it live?
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| The English fans must be too depressed to write.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The English fans must be too depressed to write.'"
Terrible scoreline for the much improved and greatest England team since sliced bread was invented.
Things could have been so different if a superior yet neutral English referee had been in charge of today's game instead.
Cheating Aussie you-know-what's, etc.
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| Joey Leilua having a shocker.
He is only 22 but he has played a lot of firstgrade and should be a bit more consistant.
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