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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"www.reds.co.uk/'"
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This is the most vicious form of scapegoating I have seen in a long time.
The club has no players worthy of a Super League jersey. How can the coach be blamed for that?
How is interim coach Alan Hunte going to change anything? Is there a super coach waiting in the wings to take over?
It is too late to find quality players for 2013. This year is a write-off for the club. Salford needs to buy a number of quality players, including the mercenary Gareth Hock and, dare I say it, some from the NRL, for 2014. Firing Veivers will change little. Koukash needs to stop eating his pie-in-the-sky goulash and start dealing with reality.
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| Quote It is too late to find quality players for 2013'"
Not if you are money bags, Morley, Tomkins and Chase are available.......oh hang on
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| Saturday - Tim Sheens wants to come to Super League
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| Quote ="JonB95"Saturday - Tim Sheens wants to come to Super League
Sunday - Salford sack head coach'"
Exactly my thoughts. Interim coach til the end of the season then sheens will come in, the entire salford squad will be released and sheens will be allowed to recruit who he wants at any cost. Plus there are literally hundreds of quality players who have conacts expiring at the end of this season, both here and in the NRL.....and money talks....whatever language you speak.....boot payment anyone....
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| Quote ="JonB95"Saturday - Tim Sheens wants to come to Super League
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| Top three threads on the Virtual Terrace are about Salford. We've made it.
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"Exactly my thoughts. Interim coach til the end of the season then sheens will come in...'"
If thats the case why not just keep Veivers until the end of the season?
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"Exactly my thoughts. Interim coach til the end of the season then sheens will come in,'"
I think it may be interim coaches until the end of 5 games - not the end of the season.I don't think you will find a post from any Salford fan expecting the side to do anything this season,anyway.
So,any future coach has 5 games.Interesting.Oh,and they have to do it with loan players - that is only fair.
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| Quote ="Wheels"If thats the case why not just keep Veivers until the end of the season?'"
When your a sl club with a fan base of 2k ,you need to do something to try and convince people you mean business.
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| Quote ="j.c"When your a sl club with a fan base of 2k ,you need to do something to try and convince people you mean business.'"
So before the game at a club that have just surrendered a 16 points lead - despite having an experienced Super League coach,who is now a national coach - you sack the head coach for an interim coach to take charge of players who since 2012 won't know if they are punched,bored or countersunk.
It's certainly mean business.
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Quote I heard Koukash's comments as reported here www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/21642083 as they happened, but didn't catch Vievers' remarks. If that's accurate and Koukash is serious, I give Vievers until Monday lunchtime.'"
Damn, I was out by 24 hours.
Stop whining - best thing to happen to this game in ages, someone ready to rattle cages. Probably harsh on poor Phil Vievers TBH, but he'll be fine. Dr. K ain't going to get this job done by pussyfooting around.
Exactly the kind of dynamism we need. Good stuff.
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Quote I heard Koukash's comments as reported here www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/21642083 as they happened, but didn't catch Vievers' remarks. If that's accurate and Koukash is serious, I give Vievers until Monday lunchtime.'"
Damn, I was out by 24 hours.
Stop whining - best thing to happen to this game in ages, someone ready to rattle cages. Probably harsh on poor Phil Vievers TBH, but he'll be fine. Dr. K ain't going to get this job done by pussyfooting around.
Exactly the kind of dynamism we need. Good stuff.
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| Salford need a club builder, someone with a proven track record at taking clubs on and improving them in every area. I've seen McClennan's name mentioned - god help them if that's the case. Tim Sheens would probably be OK if they can wait. Noble would be a safe pair of hands with a first team squad of journeymen but isn't the man to do what I think needs to be done.
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| Quote ="BelleVueLifer"Exactly my thoughts. Interim coach til the end of the season then sheens will come in, the entire salford squad will be released and sheens will be allowed to recruit who he wants at any cost. Plus there are literally hundreds of quality players who have conacts expiring at the end of this season, both here and in the NRL.....and money talks....whatever language you speak.....boot payment anyone....'"
Money talks and the salary cap speaks louder, I don't think you can develop a successful club with recruits alone, cheaper players who come through the academy mixed with the odd quality recruit seems to be a winning formula in this league.
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| I should add there may be a limiting factor in Graham Lowe who has one of the longest enemies lists in Rugby League. Brian Smith is the kind of person I can imagine is on it.
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| Ellery Hanley worth a punt? Would tie in with the good doc's apparent eagerness to attract big names,
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| Quote ="Wheels"If thats the case why not just keep Veivers until the end of the season?'"
For me, because it sends a message out to everyone else at the club about who's in charge, and how you're going to have to do something special to be in a job by the end of the year. Vievers may well be a scapegoat and I feel sorry for the guy, but its an occupational hazard of sports ( that he probably accepts ).
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| Reality is if mr moneybags is going to attract top players to jump ship then they need a big money coach to attract them. Shame for veivers given what he put up with in the offseason but no room for sentiment in business.
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Money talks and the salary cap speaks louder, I don't think you can develop a successful club with recruits alone, cheaper players who come through the academy mixed with the odd quality recruit seems to be a winning formula in this league.'"
Koukash will get the cap rules changed, just watch. Not by himself, but he'll get enough people on side to make it happen (and not before time). Money and success changes minds.
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Vievers is First Coaching Casualty of 2013Salford City Reds have parted company with coach Phil Veivers just five games into a season which has seen them with just a single win. New millionaire owner Dr Marwan Koukash was furious after Salford's capitulation to London Broncos on Friday night and made it clear that no-one would be safe from his ambitious plans for a Red future.
Veivers follows director of football Steve Simms, and commercial director Tina Wilkinson, who left the club earlier and he has been replaced by Alan Hunte, in a caretaker role ahead of next weekend's match at Wakefield Wildcats.
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Vievers is First Coaching Casualty of 2013Salford City Reds have parted company with coach Phil Veivers just five games into a season which has seen them with just a single win. New millionaire owner Dr Marwan Koukash was furious after Salford's capitulation to London Broncos on Friday night and made it clear that no-one would be safe from his ambitious plans for a Red future.
Veivers follows director of football Steve Simms, and commercial director Tina Wilkinson, who left the club earlier and he has been replaced by Alan Hunte, in a caretaker role ahead of next weekend's match at Wakefield Wildcats.
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| Koukash has a mish-mash of a team with no discernible talent.
Bringing in Brian Smith will ensure a 1st year preseason house-cleaning followed by a rapid rise up the table (though never a grand final victory) followed by a multi-year collapse of fortunes as his abrasive personality causes a decline in morale among many talented players. That is his record at Parramatta Eels, Newcastle Knights and Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) Roosters. Smith is the reason why Danny Buderus left Newcastle for Leeds, and only returned after Smith had left. Smith is the reason why Mitchell Pearce was fielding offers from other clubs before Smith was sacked. (Pearce just recently resigned for the Roosters).
Brian Smith is a one year near wonder and a long term disaster.
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| Get Smith in for 1 year and he'd turn the club around.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Koukash has a mish-mash of a team with no discernible talent.
Bringing in Brian Smith will ensure a 1st year preseason house-cleaning followed by a rapid rise up the table (though never a grand final victory) followed by a multi-year collapse of fortunes as his abrasive personality causes a decline in morale among many talented players. That is his record at Parramatta Eels, Newcastle Knights and Eastern Suburbs (Sydney) Roosters. Smith is the reason why Danny Buderus left Newcastle for Leeds, and only returned after Smith had left. Smith is the reason why Mitchell Pearce was fielding offers from other clubs before Smith was sacked. (Pearce just recently resigned for the Roosters).
Brian Smith is a one year near wonder and a long term disaster.'"
Mishmash of a team? You are joking arnt you? Ed Farish, Graham Lowe and Andrew chalmers isn't a mishmash team.
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| Unless your talking about the players then yea your right.
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