i'm not against london having a superleague club but surely after watching that first half they can't carry on like they are for much longer on or off the field. little enthusiasm from the players, loads of errors, booed off at halftime, coach under fire, another sp crowd.

and the crux of it is it does not look good on live tv

rovers playing very well by the way to be fair, but they are being massively helped

I think the London players should forfeit their pay. Given the pedigree of some of those Australians, they have a shocking attitude and deserve to be booed off the pitch. I'm amazed the small number of fans that have turned up have actually turned up. The team don't deserve them. The coach doesn't because clearly he isn't up to the job either.

It's a damn shame because they could have been building something good but instead the bunch of clowns who are pulling on the shirt - thinking particularly of those overpaid idle Australians - are ruining it.

Oh god. Watch us do a Salford.

its a real shame for the like of us who can remember the days at charlton late 90's when they had a good team and decent crowds

The team only needs a few changes:


1. Get rid of witless Michael Witt and always injured David Howell.

2. Move Sarginson to stand off,

3. Put Colbon and Clubb in the centres for now, with Robertson on the wing.

4, Next year buy a bullocking centre like Jerome Ropati from NZ.

5. Get Tim Sheens as coach, if the club can outbid Koukash. Otherwise John Kear or Brian Noble.

6. Fire the incompetent CEO Gus McKay and invest in a professional marketing manager,

SL needs a London club to provide a pathway for young players but the current club is embarrassing, the only saving grace is the junior development but literally everything else is unacceptable. Honestly I think the best thing would be for the current club to be dissolved and to start again from scratch, they must be one of the most bizarre entities in the history of sport.

The sole reason they are suffering now is the owner and the chimp he employed to turn things around.....either the RFL man up and take over or Halifax will take londons place in 2015.

From She Who Must Be Obeyed .... "its bad enough watching every &@&#%*^ game, but don't tell me you're watching reserve team games too!"

"man up" in your dictionary would seem to mean "indulge in reckless, suicidal behaviour".

Broncos lose at least a million or two a year. The RFL does not have a million or two a year to lose. Therefore they would need to cut everything to support a side that is doomed anyway.

Broncos need to pick an area either south or east London and stay there. Play as a semi-pro club in a small stadium that they can fill; stay as Broncos (no new name changes) and try to build a community. Probably they will never play in the big league again but Championship rugby is still fun and it's got to be better than what's happening now.

So, we disband the current London club, form another from scratch and, cos SL has to have a London club, put them straight into super league.

Yeah, that could work. We've never tried that before!

That's a brand new one.

The absolute minimum expectation of a crowd should be 5000

If you can't even supply that to a top level professional sport you shouldn't be around

Did the Rah Rah's get the chance to stay in for nowt, if they did it proves that the level of interest is not there.

My friends from down south have no interest in watching "London" whatsoever as they quite rightly believe it would:
1. Be a waste of time
2. Be a waste of money

They have nothing to play for, like most league clubs thesedays

I don't see any way out of this other than yet another reboot. Organic growth doesn't seem to be acheiving anything for the SL team. Sure, amateur RL in London has done well and all that, but there's seemingly no benefit to London in the SL. Not sure why that is, and its hard to understand, but hard to ignore the evidence.

Don't get me wrong, I don't particular think a reboot stands a great chance either, but other than "do nothing" I don't know what you can do. Its all very well saying "better marketing", but market what? As a poster suggests, as they stand, they've nothing to play for. The only hope ( and not guaranteed to work either ) is for the sport, or investors, to stuff a load of money in, with salary cap exemptions, and essentially 'buy' a title contending team of stars to get London off it's a££ and up and running. You may think that's a really bad idea, and I'd have plenty sympathy with you, but if we can't live with ( or find the funds ) for that, we should kick them out of SL, because there's no sense in plodding along like this.

Insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, but expecting different results.

The Union game finished 4 hours before the League kicked off - if supporters wanted to take in the League match, then they were not allowed to leave the ground. Someone on our forum suggested that there was 1 person who took advantage of this offer but I suspect he is exaggerating.

14800 at the Rah-Rah game.

Not at the Quins game ! -6000 ish

when London got to wembley why did the crowds not go up for the league games I know they got hammered but why did they not take advantage of it

Quite simply, Branson and the owners since have totaly neglected any form of marketing and promotion.....we have currently been at the stoop for 7 full seasons this time around, yet I would be amazed if the residents of the borough knew we existed.

The best example I can give you of the ineptitude displayed at the club is the re-brand in November 2011.........firstly, there was no need for it. The only confusion I ever heard regarding the Harlequins RL name was that some school kids thought RL stood for Rugby Lessons.........our new website is LondonbroncosRL.com


Then the timing.......November 1st? over 3 months until the season started and they launch the "new" name with a dozen cabs liveried and a mention at the 4 Nations Double Header....nearly 100 days away from the season launch?
When it came to it, they ignored any major marketing in the build up to the season and 4,924 show up for the first game as Broncos.v2 v Saints........followed by 1,907 for the next home game v Hudds. The average attendance for Saints v Harlequins RL was 5,029 and for Huddersfield was 4,537.....so the first 2 games produced 2,735 LESS fans than we Averaged as Harlequins RL??????

David Hughes currently throws 1.5 million at the club, but refuses to employ people who are remotely qualified to turn things around....the current CEO who has presided over a 35% decline in attendances....he was let go from his previous job because of.....drum roll.......a decline in attendances.

If Central ownership/funding isn't possible, then at the very least the RFL should be prepared to pay the wages of a CEO for the club who would be given specific KPI's to meet.......because as it stands at present, Londons SL club will cease to exist at the end of the 2014 season if not before. The current average attendance at London Broncos RL home games is 2,193 this is down 22%.....at this rate, the London Skolars will soon overtake us as the premiere RL club in the city



Of course, the above is based on a mixture of facts (attendances/lack of marketing) and my opinion and in no way should be seen as the stance taken by the owners of this forum.

I should point out on behalf of Smokey, that average attendance at London Broncos in 1970 was zero. Yep, zero. Not even a straw man. That represents an average increase of infinity. We truly are on the path to success.

Londons average attendances in SL are:
5,691 Valley
5,125 Stoop
3,842 Stoop
2,952 Stoop
3,430 Valley
3,232 Valley
3,803 Brentford
3,545 Brentford
3,460 Brentford
3,918 Brentford
4,917 Stoop
3,428 Stoop
3,909 Stoop
3,436 Stoop
3,380 Stoop
3,124 Stoop
2,807 Stoop
2,193 Stoop

Brentford was the only ground that they managed to increase attendances.....that's basically because they actually invited the neighbours in (leaflet dropped the area).

Marketing isn't complicated unless you want to make it so.......hard work and shoe leather are what was needed back in 2006 and 2007....instead, they simply stuck postsin the ground and expected fans toflock to the games



Under the current set-up, the club will continue to spiral downwards both on and off the field......Hull FC are the next visitors to the Stoop....3,633 is the average gate for them in London......will we see even half of that?

Its so depressing. A team of local lads who quite simply arent big, fit and experienced enough mixed with a bunch of hapless Aussies who couldnt care less. Gower may be talented but he's too grumpy to be a leader. No passion or drive.

Give him a bottle of Vodka, a golf buggy and a hot teenage daughter of one of the clubs backroom staff. That will cheer Gower up.