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| Likely French squad in 2013:
FB: Cyric Stacul, Morgan Escare
WG: Damien Cardace, Freddy Vaccari,
WG/CE: Mathias Pala
CE: Vincent Duport, Jean Philippe Baile,
SO: Thomas Bosc
SH: William Barthau, Remy Marginet
LF: Jason Baitieri
2R: Olivier Elima, Gregory Mounis, Cyril Gossard, Andrew Bentley
PR: Remi Casty, Jamal Fakir, Mickael Simon, Julian Bousquet
HK: Eloi Pelissier, Kane Bentley,
The main rivals for 4th place are Wales, Papua-New Guinea, and Fiji.
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| [uWales [/umay have Lee Briers, Ben Flower and a few other fringe SL players.
[uPNG[/u will likely have a team that includes:
FB: David Mead (Gold Coast)
CE: Menzies Yere (Sheffield)
CE/SO: Jessie Joe Parker
SH: Paul Aiton (Wakefield)
2R: Jason Chan (Huddersfield), Neville Costigan (Newcastle)
PR: Makali Aizue (Halifax)
HK: James Segyaro (Penrith)
The full back, scrum half, second rowers and hooker are all first rate international standard players. The others listed are not bad players. But there are gaps in the team in terms of professional quality 80 minute players.
[uFiji [/ucould [ipossibly[/i have a squad that included:
FB: Lote Tuqiri (Wests Tigers)
WG: Marika Koriobete (Wests Tigers), Sisa Waqa (Melbourne Storm), Ratu Peni Tagive (Sydney Roosters),
CE: Darryl Millard (Catalans), Kevin Naiqama (Newcastle)
SH: Ryan Millard (Shellharbour)
2R: Wes Naiqama (Penrith)
The Fijian 3/4 line would be very formidable. Problem would be inexperienced nonprofessional forwards (which is why I would expect Wes Naiqama to play 2R not centre).
Jarryd Hayne, who was so important in the 2008 Fiji World Cup team, is likely to play for Australia in 2013.
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| As good a chance as Fiji PNG or Wales but I think they play England in the quarters at the DW so..
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| Briers has retired from international footy. One of coaching staff now.
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| Wales will have a good pack if the 3 guys at Wigan (Flower, Dudson & Lloyd) keep developing. The latter 2 could be particularly good.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"[uWales [/umay have Lee Briers, Ben Flower and a few other fringe SL players.
[uPNG[/u will likely have a team that includes:
FB: David Mead (Gold Coast)
CE: Menzies Yere (Sheffield)
CE/SO: Jessie Joe Parker
SH: Paul Aiton (Wakefield)
2R: Jason Chan (Huddersfield), Neville Costigan (Newcastle)
PR: Makali Aizue (Halifax)
HK: James Segyaro (Penrith)
The full back, scrum half, second rowers and hooker are all first rate international standard players. The others listed are not bad players. But there are gaps in the team in terms of professional quality 80 minute players.
[uFiji [/ucould [ipossibly[/i have a squad that included:
FB: Lote Tuqiri (Wests Tigers)
WG: Marika Koriobete (Wests Tigers), Sisa Waqa (Melbourne Storm), Ratu Peni Tagive (Sydney Roosters),
CE: Darryl Millard (Catalans), Kevin Naiqama (Newcastle)
SH: Ryan Millard (Shellharbour)
2R: Wes Naiqama (Penrith)
The Fijian 3/4 line would be very formidable. Problem would be inexperienced nonprofessional forwards (which is why I would expect Wes Naiqama to play 2R not centre).
Jarryd Hayne, who was so important in the 2008 Fiji World Cup team, is likely to play for Australia in 2013.'"
It's certainly going to be a close one... On the case of Fiji they do have a few decent professional forwards in Jayson Bukuya, Kane Evans, Ashton Sims and Jay Masueli
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| France haven't had a good showing at a world cup for a long time. They need to step up their game. I think Fiji will be fourth but there's usually a surprise package, which could be Italy if they get a good team together.
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| I reckon Fiji will surprise everyone this WC. PNG should be stronger as well. Samoa and Tonga depends on who doesn't get picked for NZ.
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| It's a shame that it's pretty much the same French squad as the last WC. I just don't understand why more SL clubs don't sign french players. Cyril Stacul is going PIA, he would be an ideal signing for someone like Salford have last most of their back line. He's not going to be on much. France will never develop further than this until Sl clubs stop their obsession with Aussie rejects and start signing up some French players with potential.
I have to admit, the Fijian back line looks awesome.
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| Only four teams in it isn't there?
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| Quote ="Ashulster"France haven't had a good showing at a world cup for a long time. They need to step up their game. I think Fiji will be fourth but there's usually a surprise package, which could be Italy if they get a good team together.'"
Italy will likely include:
FB: Anthony Minichiello (Sydney Roosters)
CE: Vic Mauro (Manly),
SH: Craig Gower (London)
LF: Rocky Trimarchi (Western Suburbs)
2R: Aiden Guerra (Sydney Roosters), Cameron Ciraldo SR (Penrith),
PR: Anthony Laffranchi (St. Helens) , Jean Christophe Borlin (St Gaudens),
Top quality players above. Italy lacks a class hooker and stand off. Rotation will also be an issue because only native resident Italians will be able to come off the bench.
France obviously has the advantage over all the other teams who will be competing for 4th place, of depth (relatively speaking).
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Italy will likely include:
FB: Anthony Minichiello (Sydney Roosters)
CE: Vic Mauro (Manly),
SH: Craig Gower (London)
LF: Rocky Trimarchi (Narellan Jets)
2R: Aiden Guerra (Sydney Roosters), Cameron Ciraldo SR (Penrith),
PR: Anthony Laffranchi (St. Helens) , Jean Christophe Borlin (St Gaudens),
Top quality players above. Italy lacks a class hooker and stand off. Rotation will also be an issue because only native resident Italians will be able to come off the bench.
France obviously has the advantage over all the other teams who will be competing for 4th place, of depth (relatively speaking).'"
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"I reckon Fiji will surprise everyone this WC. PNG should be stronger as well. [size=150Samoa and Tonga depends on who doesn't get picked for NZ[/size.'"
To anyone who wants TGG to grow around the world, the bit in bold makes really depressing reading
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| Italy or Fiji will be fourth, depending on the draw.
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| Just looked at the draw there and its a good chance that Fiji will play France in the quarters. Italy on the other hand will have to play NZ if they can get out of their group.
There will be some interesting battles outside the big three, just like the last world cup.
Especially looking forward to France, Samoa and PNG fighting it out in group B.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Likely French squad in 2013:
FB: Cyric Stacul, Morgan Escare
WG: Damien Cardace, Freddy Vaccari,
WG/CE: Mathias Pala
CE: Vincent Duport, Jean Philippe Baile,
SO: Thomas Bosc
SH: William Barthau, Remy Marginet
LF: Jason Baitieri
2R: Olivier Elima, Gregory Mounis, Cyril Gossard, Andrew Bentley
PR: Remi Casty, Jamal Fakir, Mickael Simon, Julian Bousquet
HK: Eloi Pelissier, Kane Bentley,
The main rivals for 4th place are Wales, Papua-New Guinea, and Fiji.'"
without too much reflection you have missed Kevin Larroyer & Antony Maria as well as Greenshields who will be available if he can find an NRL side for next year (otherwise he will retire) - then there's Bemba from ASC with maybe a few others in the pipeline ie Kriouache at TO who looks a really good prospect
regarding 4th place - depends on how the draw works out - will they be 4th at the WC or will they be 4th ranked in the world are two different matters
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| Quote ="Bull Mania"It's a shame that it's pretty much the same French squad as the last WC. I just don't understand why more SL clubs don't sign french players. Cyril Stacul is going PIA, he would be an ideal signing for someone like Salford have last most of their back line. He's not going to be on much. France will never develop further than this until Sl clubs stop their obsession with Aussie rejects and start signing up some French players with potential.
I have to admit, the Fijian back line looks awesome.'"
Will happen more when the nrl gravy train dries up.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"To anyone who wants TGG to grow around the world, the bit in bold makes really depressing reading
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Both those countries would be better taking a leaf out of Fiji's books rather than relying on eligible kiwis. I thought the mix of local Fijians and Fijian nrl players last WC worked very well for them.
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| You'd expect something like this:
Australia v Wales
England v PNG
New Zealand v Italy
France v Fiji
Australia v Fiji
England v New Zealand
Australia v England
The France v Fiji match will be massive! (if it turns out that way, group B is by far the most exciting looking, though England Fiji will be interesting too)
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| Are they televising every game?
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| Will Pelo be available to France now hes back?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Are they televising every game?'"
TV deal still in the pipeline.....if they could get a FTA deal it would be brilliant.....
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| Quote ="Leon Ashton"Will Pelo be available to France now hes back?'"
well, he's eligible but whether he gets picked is another matter - he's not exactly well respected within the french heirachy after his antics a few years back
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| forgot about Dane Chisholm too !
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| I imagine Fiji or one of the other Island nations will take 4th spot.
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