[i[url=http://www.therhinos.co.uk/rugby/first-team/player-first-team.php?PlayId=557Josh joined the Rhinos in 2013 having made the switch from playing Rugby Union, where he had progressed through the Academy with Yorkshire Carnegie. In Union, Walters was a centre who played for the North of England and was part of the Prince Henry’s AASE team who regularly challenge for national honours.[/url[/i Walters was spotted by the Leeds team whilst playing for their sister club, Yorkshire Carnegie.

[i[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Hall_(rugby_league)Hall joined the Leeds Academy in 2006 after being spotted playing for amateur club the Oulton Raiders by former Leeds coach John Daly.[/url[/i This is not quite been spotted whilst playing university RL is it?

[i[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_KeinhorstKeinhorst began playing rugby in 2004 while attending St. Mary's Catholic High School, Menston.[/url[/i Jimmy has a long history of playing rugby in this country way before he went to University. Leeds Rhinos did not introduce him to the sport and no, it's not strange that he's German and plays rugby league considering where he went to school. People migrate all the time regardless of their nationality. There's not thousands of Germans wanting to play rugby league, Jimmy is plays rugby because of where he grew up and I don't see any Germans moving into the rugby league heartlands anytime soon.

Regarding the other players, Leeds Rhinos have a partnership with Leeds Met which allows players to prepare for life after playing rugby league. This partnership might be attracting the odd fan from the universities to attend matches at Headingley but you are overestimating the impact. Leeds Rhinos players studying at University does not equate to a mass influx of university students living in Headingley attending rugby league games. A massive suspension of reality here.

Technically, Stanningley is a district in Pudsey but otherwise the two areas have their own unique identities. I have never heard Stanningley been referred as a Pudsey team but people might say its in Leeds. Whilst Leeds covers a variety of areas, places like Chapletown and Bramley have a different identity to the rest of the areas in the city.

Salford RL missed their chance to be the home of spectating on live sport when Manchester United turned their back on their local fans in the 2000s as tickets became like gold dust.

While the football club chased the big dollar spent in the club shop by fans far afield and gentrified the atmosphere, Salford RL could've grabbed those locally who were alienated if they had moved quickly.

Now it's too late as Salford City and the class of 92 plus FC United of Manchester have moved in to cash in on that crowd.

You really do, the fact that you keep posting kind of proves it, otherwise why would anyone, even you, bother?

Your second paragraph doesn't make any sense at all, who have you "enjoyed watching swing wildly"? If it is aimed at me, I am quite comfortable that my posts, whether you agree with them or not and I would guess that you don't, have at least been consistent and generally applied to the original proposition "Why has RL never taken off in Manchester and Liverpool"? Because there isn't enough interest in case you need a reminder

Apart from a much needed Geography lesson, as far as "swinging wildly" is concerned, we have endured all sorts of nonsense from you and others about how many Germans will or won't follow Keinhorst into RL in the Leeds area and whether he went to secondary school near Pudsey and only got into Rugby League after playing Union at University and if Headingly had less Jewish students.....

You obviously enjoy arguing and I will concede that you are fairly good at it, particularly if the argument becomes a test of perseverance and boring your 'opponent' into submission by taking the debate down endless rabbit holes. However, the game is up on this occasion, no mildly offensive "you're stupid" or "you just don't understand" will cover up the fact that you simply do not know what you are talking about.

Hillbilly, we have disagreed and that's only natural as people will have differences of opinion, but, I would hope that it was a disagreement based on some semblance of facts, or each others interpretation of them? I know what is was about and think that we just agreed to disagree, no name calling or "swinging wildly" to create a different never ending argument?

Funny how our co correspondent, named all of these Rugby League places in Manchester yet left out Rochdale how is it in 'them thar' hills, hope you're Ok on the outside of Manchester?

the growth of rugby league and the geography of Manchester are different topics. One i care about, the other i dont.

See you did understand. Seems a strange tactic, though common in those from Manchester, to pretend they don't understand things they do.

I have neither called you stupid, nor said anyone doesnt understand. I havent argued any Germans would follow Keinhorst in to RL, i havent once mentioned where he went to school, i havent argued that he got into RL after playing RL at University, I havent at any stage mentioned Jewish students. But other than that well done on a great post.

Soccer is easier to understand, which is why it is popular!

RL has always been innovative to keep it's crowds but it is a game where being able to think is important.