Quote ="Durham Giant"Considering you constantly show us you are a man of the world who was coached at 10 to knock people out i can claim on my own experience that Flower would have known that Hohaia was knocked out.
I have played rugby, soccer, gaelic football and hurling. I was an amateur boxer and have had a few scrapes in my life.
I can tell you 100% that you know when you have given someone a clean punch. You know pretty well when you have hit that sweet spot and someone is going down.
When they are down and you have to bend down on one knee and the opponents hands are splayed wide so that you can hit them again you know they are gone
No matter how quick it is you know they are not fighting back, you know they are not covering up you know they are out.
You know this instantaneously, you know it instinctively, you know it objectively.
He knew he was knocked out but he had so lost himself in his emotion or anger or frustration he did not care and still went for it.
Either way that scenario is very very scary and something the RFL need to deal with'"
I was not coached at ten to knock people out. When I was ten, coaches (this in union by the way) used phrases like 'knock his block off' when talking about, say, the biggest opposition player who was trampling on people. It's old fashioned and not how you'd coach nowadays, but it wasn't taken literally. Taken literally, 'knock his block off' is worse than 'knock someone out', but even a ten year old knew that it didn't mean to literally knock his head off his shoulders. That's what I meant when I said I'd heard 'worse' in junior rugby. The point is to put Wane's comments into context.
On the other point If you are correct about Flower, then he shouldn't play again, but I still think you're wrong.
