I took the previous posters stats that said 8% for MM and O'loughlin's is 7%, MM actually misses about 8.5% but both are a lot lower than the other players listed.

Also when did McIlorum play a big game in the World Cup? Clark's failed to show in the Cup final, the catalans game and the play off. Like you say that could have as much to do with the team in general.

I'd disagree about needing players to score, we need to be solid in defence. Limit opportunities and take chances when we can. You're not going to beat Australia in a shoot out.

Roby is a no brainer. Head and shoulders above everyone else. I would take Clark as back up.

MM is just the latest in a long line of stupidly overated wigan players.

Regards

King James

Before the WC, I was saying that MM had staked a good claim to get a run in the side.

I was at the Fiji game, he had very little impact for me. Did not do anything massively wrong from what I recall, but I did not see any great disribution or fearsome tackling.

It's always a tough call as GB/England sides always split fans along loyalties to club men.

Do I like MM? No.
Would I have him at Saints? No
Would I give him one more whirl at international level before shutting that door? Maybe

Fiji was a damp squib for him, but one match does not test a player. A full test series will let us know if he is decent enough at that level.

I don't need a full test series to tell me that James Roby for 80 minutes is a better bet than James Roby + A N Other

He's light years ahead of MM

My point is that we know Roby will be fine, but we have to take another player and I would be tempted to take MM as he has only had one shot at international level. Yes he did not impress, but one match or part of a match is not enough to consign him to the bin of international RL.

We did that far too often in the past with our halfbacks.

He does bring something to Wigan, whilst he is not at Roby's level, if Roby was to be injured we would need another 80 minute player and to me that would be MM.


Can I go wash now.

Roby and Lunt