Quote ="Rooster Booster"Same old aussies.... always cheating. What a bloody joke. They get ONE year, backdated. This country is a joke, when it comes to doing something about their sportspeople who end up being cheats!!! Let's see if they update their Sanctions page. Though I can't help but notice that the RL players who have been done for steroids all got two years. (3 months for cannabis). So why have this lot got one? www.asada.gov.au/rules_and_viola ... tions.html And to think that an Australian International and captain of NSW is a drug cheat and lied continually for the last X amount of time. Disgusting.'" Well if this country is a joke, leave, its that simple. We dont know much facts about this investigation, but dont let that stop you. You say Gallen is a drug cheat, yet we have never heard that he has failed a drugs test. The only fact we know, is this investigation is a joke, well over a year after the 'Blackest day in Australian sport' is this is were we are. Clearly ASADA do not have enough evidence and this deal is a way of forcing players to essentially 'admit' their guilt. Whats the point in fighting a few game ban when the alternative could be months in court and costly legals bills. Theres only a few including Gallen who will really lose out. We simply dont know which players if any, knew anything. You are kiddying yourself if you really think a player is going to question a qualified sports scientist. Off course you would trust them and your clubs supplement programme, why would you? Are you seriously expecting every player to question ever supplement/injection they are given???? So when the doctor/sports scientist says its fine, do you take it then???? The people who run these programmes and the club themselves are responsible for all of this. It annoys me how the common denominator in all of this will continue to get away with it. No doubt some idiots will still employ Stephen Dank.

Quote ="Rooster Booster"Same old aussies.... always cheating. What a bloody joke. They get ONE year, backdated. This country is a joke, when it comes to doing something about their sportspeople who end up being cheats!!! Let's see if they update their Sanctions page. Though I can't help but notice that the RL players who have been done for steroids all got two years. (3 months for cannabis). So why have this lot got one? www.asada.gov.au/rules_and_viola ... tions.html And to think that an Australian International and captain of NSW is a drug cheat and lied continually for the last X amount of time. Disgusting.'" Well if this country is a joke, leave, its that simple. We dont know much facts about this investigation, but dont let that stop you. You say Gallen is a drug cheat, yet we have never heard that he has failed a drugs test. The only fact we know, is this investigation is a joke, well over a year after the 'Blackest day in Australian sport' is this is were we are. Clearly ASADA do not have enough evidence and this deal is a way of forcing players to essentially 'admit' their guilt. Whats the point in fighting a few game ban when the alternative could be months in court and costly legals bills. Theres only a few including Gallen who will really lose out. We simply dont know which players if any, knew anything. You are kiddying yourself if you really think a player is going to question a qualified sports scientist. Off course you would trust them and your clubs supplement programme, why would you? Are you seriously expecting every player to question ever supplement/injection they are given???? So when the doctor/sports scientist says its fine, do you take it then???? The people who run these programmes and the club themselves are responsible for all of this. It annoys me how the common denominator in all of this will continue to get away with it. No doubt some idiots will still employ Stephen Dank.

Typical aussie reply. "This country is a joke, [iwhen it comes to doing something about their sportspeople who end up being cheats!!!" [/i The British Head of NRL Dave Smith is livid with Cronulla. www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stor ... -bans.html "'The suspensions recognise the fact that the players were misled, that the investigation has been ongoing for the past 18 months and that players made timely [size=150admissions[/size after being provided with evidence earlier this week." "But, the players, coaches, staff and administrators are on notice that we have a zero tolerance to breaches of the anti-doping policy." Ignorance is no defence, even if it is the only accurate defence. Everyone knows it. Players, Staff. Everyone at every NRL club. They have got off lightly. Which happens here. As I said previously. A joke.

Typical aussie reply. "This country is a joke, [iwhen it comes to doing something about their sportspeople who end up being cheats!!!" [/i The British Head of NRL Dave Smith is livid with Cronulla. www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stor ... -bans.html "'The suspensions recognise the fact that the players were misled, that the investigation has been ongoing for the past 18 months and that players made timely [size=150admissions[/size after being provided with evidence earlier this week." "But, the players, coaches, staff and administrators are on notice that we have a zero tolerance to breaches of the anti-doping policy." Ignorance is no defence, even if it is the only accurate defence. Everyone knows it. Players, Staff. Everyone at every NRL club. They have got off lightly. Which happens here. As I said previously. A joke.

Given Gallen was "suspended" during the RLWC should his caps be expunged and his winners medal returned?

ASADA wrote into the admissions that the players "unknowingly" took prohibited substances. As far as can be told the evidence against the players wasn't particularly strong, but the deal they were offered was simply too good to turn down, particularly with the wording enabling them to say that it wasn't their fault and the possibility of long bans following months more of not knowing the outcome.

The head of ASADA was interviewed yesterday and said that WADA had been involved every step of the way and were well aware of the offers made to players. Suggestions that WADA might come in over the top and increase the bans are probably wide of the mark.

As for Aiton, I suspect the simple issue is that the investigation has been undertaken by ASADA, an Australian agency. After well over a year they finally got round to offering deals to the Sharks within the last week. They would have no authority in the UK, so at best they'll forward the same information to their UK equivalents to make the offer to Aiton at some stage. Given the snail-like pace of these bureacracies it wouldn't surprise me if Aiton doesn't get issued with anything this season.

In fact his safest bet might be to return to Aus in the off-season and get the same offer from ASADA whilst here, then take the short ban and go back to england for the start of next year.

One I've often wondered about is Kris Radlinski in the 2002 Challenge Cup final. It is well know that he was pumped up with drugs. They were administered by legitimate doctors and it was all above board but did those injections give him an unfair advantage over other players?

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ryan-t ... 7034330157 interesting article

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ryan-t ... 7034330157 interesting article