Because a) we are very poorly run and always have been. and b) the 'south' doesn't equate to London, it can include Brighton, Southampton, Bristol, Gloucester, Kent, Essex etc.

Rugby League is BRILLIANT sport that unfortunately, in the UK, is being badly managed at nearly every turn and no amount of back slapping over a RLWC that delivered little growth and even less additional profit on the last one ion 2008 is going to change that. Attendances are , 3/14 clubs pay their own way, 3/14 clubs are teetering on the edge of the abyss and the other 8 all rely on a benefactor to keep them afloat. England remain #3 in the world with no real competition from the rankings behind, the SL Sponsor (if there is one) is 3 years late and the RFL are going to throw away licencing 5 years into what was always going to take 10 years to bed down. How is the game supposed to attract investors or sponsors when it is seen to bow to the wishes of a few chairmen running pit village rugby clubs at losses who believe that 1.3 in SKY cash will make them the next Leeds or Wigan

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I do not invent problems....I highlight them.

All this may or may not be true and i agree with a lot of it, but fudging spinning and inventing figures do not alter whether they are true or not.

Removing ‘event’ games from RL figures and arguing vehemently that they should not only not be included, may support your view point. But it doesn’t make it true. Comparing them to RU figures where you havent removed them and are a lot more sanguine about their appearence in those figures simply confirms the fact.

Just as dividing 26 data points by 28 may give a figure you are more comfortable with, but that doesn’t make it an average and it doesn’t make it true. Your points and your arguments would hold a lot more weight if you actually made them and discussed them on their merits. Your insistence on fudging, spinning and in some cases outright making up figures is the reason that you are dismissed as a troll. You are obviously smart enough to know this, which simply confirms you aren’t doing them because you are misguided or because you needed someone to explain what an average is and how you work one out, you are doing this because you are a troll.

I didn't make any of it up.


I didn't count Magic weekends "home" attendances for the RL clubs, so I instead, removed the double header attendance from Sarries and Wasps.....it still showed how poorly RL clubs stand globally in attendance stakes. 'EVENT" games, like the stand alone Wembley Saracens game or the stand alone Boxing day games are regular season single game evens that those clubs gamble on getting gates for....they are perfectly acceptable in attendance averages.

460,000 people watched 28 games.....regardless of the insecure need to make it look like there were more, there weren't. See Williams picture of the crowd at the Aussie Fiji semi-final. Show that picture to anyone and then claim there were 67,000 people there......the white coated brigade will take you away!


Actually, I was dismissed as a troll for suggesting the RLIF/RFL could learn from the IRB/RFU.......all the other name calling is pretty much down to people getting frustrated with my negativity.


Nope....I KNOW that 460,000 people attended 26 events and 28 games of RL. I do not suffer from an insecurity complex or need to make things look bigger than they actually are......check out bills picture again and tell me about the 67,000 people there



167,000 more fans attended 2013 than did so in 2008...that is a 57% increase with an increase of games at 55%.....is there anything in this statement that isn't true? Do you seriously believe there were 67,000 in attendance for Australia v Fiji? Do you think a potential sponsor/investor in the game would believe there were 67,000 people there for the 2nd game?
You call it trolling because you don't agree with it but in reality, all it is, is a differing stand point on this and other issues.

"You can call it trolling because you don't agree with it but in reality, all it is, is a differing stand point on this and other issues".

A noble statement from gutterfax, now if only the aforementioned respected the views of others rather than constantly trying to prove that their viewpoint is the only correct/ valid one.

Being at both the Cardiff and Wembley double headers, I must say that I was a little surprised and certainly pleased that just about everybody stayed on for the 2nd matches.

At Wembley, just about everybody who had been at there for the England v New Zealand match stayed on through the half hour gap and were there for the Australia v Fiji match when it kicked off.

What did happen was that the crowd really started to thin out from about half way through the 2nd half of the Australia v Fiji match. By that time, the result was clear AND, importantly, it was ABSOLUTELY FREEZING. So the fact that people started leaving didn't surprise me at the time. Personally, I stayed right to the end - but that meant I'd been in my seat for about 5 hours in what became an icy cold stadium.