For years, I was all for promotion and relegation completely of the opinion that it was the only way forward for Rugby League because the teams at the bottom of SL needed something to fight for and the teams below Super League need something to aspire to. But the closer we get to a return to P&R the more and more I think it is a terrible idea which will damage the game.

I do believe that the dwindling crowds in the Championship and Championship 1 are mainly attributable to a no promotion, but it's just not the way forward. The RFL seriously need to look at reinstating the U23s for next year. As someone has already mentioned in this thread, we currently have more young tallented players coming through than we probably ever have done and although there is the federation trained rule in place, it will not stop teams from trying to buy their way out of relegation as opposed to giving youth their chance to shine.

The RFL needs to look at how all 14 Super League teams can be sustainable if this means dropping the league to 12 so be it, but don't bring back relegation.

I honestly don't think that promotion and relegation can be re-introduced until we have a full time professional Championship division otherwise we are just going to have the same 3 or 4 teams yo-yoing until they go bankrupt.

The TV money is distributed equitably amongst the SL clubs, so that's no reason as to why some clubs don't challenge for trophies.
Which 5 clubs do you mean by the way?

So, in the Whelan era.... Wigan as a club were losing money ???

Also can you please list the 'stagnant' clubs.... What they are doing wrong and in your expertise tell us all what these clubs should be trying and doing that they aren't already....

In the Whelan era the Wigan club lost zillions of pounds. The company accounts were a financial train crash. The club did not sell its own merchandise but it was sold through then then Whelan owned JJB Sports.
When Ian Lenegan bought the place prior to the 2008 season he said he wanted the club to win trophies and be profitable.
The past three seasons Wigan have won trophies and been profitable.
Prior to 2008 IL said that he was changing the club policy on recriutment. In that any local Wigan lad who showed the potential would be given a chance at first team Rugby. This season Wigan have regularly fielded 12 players or more out of the 17 who have come through the Wigan youth set up.
This has taken some years to achieve and if a club was threatened by relegation they could not achieve this. Not threatened by relegation and most if not all clubs could achieve this.
One way to ensure clubs train most of their squad is to increase the number of club trained players in the squad.
At present it's 8 in the squad of 25. Make it 8 in the game day 17 and we'd all be in business and be far better off for it than we are now.

Saints Wire Wigan Leeds and Hull.

My point is ALL pro clubs should receive a share of TV money.

the RFL killed London Broncos the day they said he couldn't own 2 clubs...