Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The criterion of being competitive should be being able to get within 20 points of a major nation 80% of the time.
Rugby Union has 10 competitive nations:
England
Ireland
Wales
Scotland
France
Italy
Australia
New Zealand
South Africa
Argentina
On the fringes of competitiveness are Fiji, Samoa, Tonga and Japan.
It is inconceivable that rugby league could achieve that number of competitive nations witin the next 10-20 years.
Right now rugby league has 3 competitive nations:
Australia
New Zealand
England
On the fringes of competitiveness are France, Papua-New Guinea, and Wales.
They could be improved to competitiveness within the next 10 years, if development is continued.
Would 6 competitive nations be enough to make international competition be taken seriously by the media , public and sponsors?
I doubt it. More likely 8 is the minimum number.
Who could be the best next development areas? IMO one should be a European nation (Italy? Spain?) and another a South Pacific nation (Fiji?)
But we must work hard to get to 6 within 10 years if we are to be able to progress further. And that involves more professional teams from each currently fringe nation. Both the NRL and SL must work to realise more professional clubs from each fringe nation.'"
Have you ever watched rugby union?
Rugby league and rugby union are different sports. A good rugby team will not demolish a bad rugby team in anything like the same way a good rugby league team will punish a bad one. Because of the nature of the codes the scoreboard is incomparable. So to give a criteria for a competitive rugby league team, and then give us a bunch of union teams who fit it, it's not fair.
Teams such as Samoa and France in rugby league are, in my opinion this is, better than Italy and Scotland in rugby union. That Samoa and Tonga are beaten convincingly in rugby league doesn't make the gulf in class bigger, it makes the games different.
Because rugby union is a negative game, particularly on the international stage - and because penalty kicks are worth 3 points - what you see is very bad teams staying in games, or being "competitive" by the measure you've given, because they're able to score 1 try and kick a few points. Sometimes all they need is a few points. This is exasperated by the fact that even good teams play conservative and kick penalties, rather than putting their opposition to the sword.
I actually did some stats on where points come from in the respective codes once when i got in an argument with a rugby fan. What I discovered was that penalty kicks account for, this is my memory at work here, just over 60% of points in international games.
For that reason, judging competitiveness by score margins doesn't really work, at least not if you're going to compare to rugby. Rugby league does need more competition in internationally, but don't invoke rugby and 3rd tier teams like Scotland