Maybe you're just fishing? But seriously, how do you come to that conclusion? Granted not all of them are world beaters, but they're better than many clubs imports....

Webster - International, GF winner, Tri-nations winner
Clinton - International, GF winner
Vella - SOO, International, Grand finalist
Dobson - AG medal winner, Dream Team last 2 seasons
Mason - SOO, International, GF winner, Clive Churchill winner
Newton - GF winner, Dream Team 2009
Galea - City Origin, GF winner, dreamteam 2009
Lovegrove - Probably our best prop last year despite not having a glittering CV
Fisher - Served us well, been with us since 2006 (apparently he's Scottish too

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Green - The jury is out on him until we've seen how he gets on over here imo.

Most of them aren't exactly what you'd call crap, are they?

It's hardly a one off though, the 2008 stats are comparable to this year's, and last year's (with the exception of tackles made) weren't too far off. Surely Gidley hasn't had 3 bad years?



And that's not the impression I'm trying to make. Week in, week out he performs very well for Wigan and is a classy player IMO.

The think with Carmont is, he may not be a star centre, but he's a centre. He does what a centre's suppose to do. When you'd expect a centre to make gains or expoliot a 2 on 1, he can do it. When you'd expect a centre to be able to handle a defensive situation in his channel, he will.
He's not just a guy who's around the right size & shape for a centre with half a yard of pace (a la Ryan Atkins,) who doesn't have a clue about the actual art of playing centre.

I felt that this year Gidley did not look as threatening and perhaps was receiving less decent ball than previous years.
I don't think I'm alone there.

I really think Lee Gilmour's days of playing in the centres should be over, he is starting to lose that extra yard of speed and i think he should stay in the backrow, and what a good backrow it should be next season.

That's a very good point, he isn't in the category of World Class Centres.

Perhaps my view's been skewed in the fact of what we had playing there before him at times in the few years before he arrived.