Can not understand what wigan are playing at, Carmont is not bad but defo not a super star and for a club of Wigan size giving him a 3 years deal i find this very strange i would rather have goulding learning is trade.

Why pick my quote when others are talking Eastmond at Saints and Kallum Watkins at Leeds



Just for the record Ratchford got his chance on the wing last season earlier than expected as our three quarter line was decimated, and he played so well he dislodged Jeremy Smith our overseas signing at six made the position his own and got an England call up, and he's still a kid !!!

Gidley and Senior are better all round players for sure. Nero

. Shenton has been pretty good but not as good as Carmont IMO..... Atkins has loads of potentiall but is overated at the moment. Don't forget Carmont was in the dream team in his first season!

James Donaldson for us without a doubt. Whitehead is not far behind though. Wish we had lots of talent coming through in the three-quarters or halves though. We have 3 potential stars coming through in the back-row.

Nero was excellent for bulls last season, there best back without a doubt.

Shenton if you look on the sl website beats carmont in nearly every stat (though i will admit carmont is not far off in most departments) not forgeting that shenton was the top try scoring centre, and has just had a fantastic performance in the 4 nations (mainly in defence as he was starved of the ball).

Atkins needs to work on passing to his winger but has the power threaten any defencive line.

I dont really pay much attention to the dream team far too many selections are obvioulsy wrong (kevin penny!) and are quite obviously political.

I didn't see people talking about Eastmond, that's nonsense. It just winds me up when people put established stars in 'young prospects' threads. Danny McGuire featured in this kind of thread until he was about 24.

FWIW, Ratchford is not a 'kid'. He's older than Sam Burgess, Israel Folau and only a year younger than Greg Inglis FFS.