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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Same old story for hapless Poms By Andrew Johns From: The Daily Telegraph November 16, 2009 12:00AM Increase Text SizeDecrease Text SizePrintEmail Share
Add to DiggAdd to del.icio.usAdd to FacebookAdd to KwoffAdd to MyspaceAdd to NewsvineWhat are these?IF administrators follow cricket's lead and shorten rugby league Tests to 60 minutes, the Poms would be a realistic chance of beating us.
At the moment, they don't have the mental toughness to go the full distance - and it's been that way for 15 years.
The Four Nations final was another classic example of England's frailty under pressure and the Kangaroos' ability to exploit it.
It was a great contest for 60 minutes. The Poms stuck it to us and their back-row - Jamie Peacock, Gareth Ellis and Sam Burgess - was outstanding.
Burgess is a fantastic talent. He is big and mobile and the step he put on Petero Civoniceva for the opening try was sensational. No wonder Russell Crowe chased so hard to get him to South Sydney. He will be a big hit out here.
But all the good work the home side did in the opening three quarters of the game was undone by what they didn't do in the final 20 minutes. As soon as a crack appeared, the Kangaroos came pouring through.
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Once on the front foot and sensing a kill, the spine of our team - Cameron Smith, Johnathan Thurston, Darren Lockyer and Billy Slater - dominated to such an extent that we blew them away in the end.
Slater's three-try performance surely will silence his knockers. I can't understand why his position is ever questioned. Slater and Greg Inglis have been our best players on tour, even allowing for a couple of missed tackles by the fullback in the opening game against New Zealand.
Inglis was a powerhouse again and Lockyer and Smith had some great touches, but Thurston's role was enormous.
Just his overall involvement was outstanding, but he really stood up for the Kangaroos at the crucial moments. His brilliant kick under pressure for Brett Morris' second-half try was right from the top shelf and was the beginning of the end for the home side.
The result was a triumph for Lockyer. He has been a great player and leader for Australia and his face at fulltime showed how much winning meant after the disappointment of last year's World Cup final.
There were some positives for England, but the simple fact is they are never going to beat Australia consistently until they learn how to compete for the full game.
It's that simple.'" what might have happened if the coaches were switched. sheens coaching england instead ?? where is the link please | | |
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| Quote ="10940"I have become bored this last couple of weeks reading the poms glorification of 'THAT' Burgess try,it was just about the ONLYgood move England produced all match,then he stuffed himself up by trying to dummy another try not long afterwards,surely to God he didn't expect AUSTRALIA to fall for it twice?? so if he had used his brain??????? you could have been 12-0 up,so it just shows,he still has an awful lot to learn,which he should do in the NFL during his prime years,...it's a pity Trevor Foster isn't still around at Odsal Stadium to show him how a second row forward SHOULD PLAY RUGBY.'"
We’re not debating a try that should have been, we are talking about your stupid, can’t-accept-anyone-from-England-is-any-good comments.
10940 says: “He’s a carthorse”
Petero Civoniceva says: "What a weapon, he's unbelievable, I think he's going to take the NRL by storm "
Nathan Hindmarsh says: "He's got a bit of skill and a bit of footwork and he's got good toe”
So who should I believe? A troll who has yet to post one anti-biased, intelligent comment or two of the best rugby players in the world who have actually played against him? I think I’ll take the latter. | | | |
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10940 says: “He’s a carthorse”
Petero Civoniceva says: "What a weapon, he's unbelievable, I think he's going to take the NRL by storm "
Nathan Hindmarsh says: "He's got a bit of skill and a bit of footwork and he's got good toe”
So who should I believe? A troll who has yet to post one anti-biased, intelligent comment or two of the best rugby players in the world who have actually played against him? I think I’ll take the latter.'"
I understand as much about rugby League as anyone does,and I maintain at the moment Burgess is being over-rated,I have seen,(over the years) many potentional players that didn't turn out as good as they were expected to,..you see in England you have great problems with personel in nearly all your sports,one good performance and you lot start screaming"best since sliced bread, twelve months later on the scrap heap..(Panesar)for instance, Morgan is the next.
The trouble with you mate is,if people dont agree with you they must be a troll,..GET A LIFE. | | |
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Quote ="10940"
Err... Australia RU weren't superior to Scotland last week were they!
Anyway you ought to be good at sports as you have nothing else to do over there but practice. For us sport is something we do in our leisure time, while for you it is a religion and doesn't involve using your brains much. We invented most of the international sports. The best you lot came up with is a cross between a couple of sports we invented. Sorry I forgot you invented sledging didn't you.'" '"
Go back to school child.
I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity. | | | |
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| Quote ="10940"I understand as much about rugby League as anyone does,and I maintain at the moment Burgess is being over-rated,I have seen,(over the years) many potentional players that didn't turn out as good as they were expected to,..you see in England you have great problems with personel in nearly all your sports,one good performance and you lot start screaming"best since sliced bread, twelve months later on the scrap heap..(Panesar)for instance, Morgan is the next.
The trouble with you mate is,if people dont agree with you they must be a troll,..GET A LIFE.'"
You obviously don't understand what a simple equation this is.....I'm not saying Burgess is the best player in the world, I'm not saying he didn't mess up a potential second try. What I am saying is that calling him a CARTHORSE is wrong....nothing else.....a belief that is backed up by two of your international players. Does someone with "skill and a bit of footwork and good toe" sound like attributes that a carthorse would have?
Having looked at some of your posts on here it is clear that you do not know as much as anyone on Rugby League, I've yet to see anything that isn't aimed at agitating the English on here, which is what you seem to spend all your time doing.....therefore maybe you should get a life and try considering making one, decent, rugby-league based comment rather than a hundred stupid The-English-are-rubbish-at-everything ones. | | | |
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