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| Please don't mind the bloke trying to pump Australia's tyres, we're not all like him in OZ.
Would just like to say that unlike him most of us -do- show humility after sporting wins (and will give credit to those who beat us). England took advantage of key moments in the Ashes to win; despite spending more time across the series with the momentum, we never took the big opportunities when they were there and that cost us. That's cold hard fact, and we must move on, learn from our mistakes and get that urn back.
Would also like to respond to the guy who said we're not that crash hot at a lot of sports right now - yeah fair enough, we've lost when we've played England the last couple of times in the rugby union world cup (although looking at the official site we are ranked 3rd, your mob 6th), and I've got a lot of respect for the English sides that got that done. But one thing I get sick of, one thing I think is really rich coming from certain English fans, is when they knock us as a nation, knock our sporting culture, after they win something against us despite sitting back and accepting their extended periods of mediocrity (a lot of the time performances that weren't even worthy of the mediocre tag) across so many sports in between the wins. Things like ACCEPTING the non-competitive 5-0 whitewash in the 06/07 Ashes just because there were some "hall of famers in waiting" in the Australian side (the way the media in England talked about the 2005 Ashes during the 09 series as if 06/07 didn't happen at all was ordinary imo). Just CONCEDING that the Australian rugby league team is something that cannot be stopped because of its stronger domestic competition background, so a 30 point loss isn't too bad. There is a big big difference between accepting a loss and accepting responsibility for a loss.
The other thing is when we win, we're happy about it and all the rest of it, but we won't go around slagging the crap out of the other country. I'm talking about overall as a nation, not speaking for the occasional individual who is an exception (like the other guy on here). When we lose it burns like hell, and we'll take responsibility for the loss by striving to better ourselves for next time. But if England lose, people just sweep it under the rug only returning to point and laugh at the opposition when they get up and win again. I've got a lot of English blood relatives, and when one of my Aussie rellies went over there for a while to stay with them in 2005 he copped rabid niggling and jeering the whole time about the cricket. First thing he said after telling us about it was that you don't see that sort of thing the other way around in Australia. And he's right, you don't.
I know that any Australian side that fronts up to play in an international game will never accept a situation as impossible; they will always believe in themselves and will fight until the end. So when a side beats them they earn my respect straight away. But I think the way so many English fans stick the knives into us after a victory, when our teams will at least have unconditional belief in themselves and never lower their standards, is pretty poor.
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| Quote ="10940"I have become bored this last couple of weeks reading the poms glorification of 'THAT' Burgess try,it was just about the ONLYgood move England produced all match,then he stuffed himself up by trying to dummy another try not long afterwards,surely to God he didn't expect AUSTRALIA to fall for it twice?? so if he had used his brain??????? you could have been 12-0 up,so it just shows,he still has an awful lot to learn,which he should do in the NFL during his prime years,...it's a pity Trevor Foster isn't still around at Odsal Stadium to show him how a second row forward SHOULD PLAY RUGBY.'"
We’re not debating a try that should have been, we are talking about your stupid, can’t-accept-anyone-from-England-is-any-good comments.
10940 says: “He’s a carthorse”
Petero Civoniceva says: "What a weapon, he's unbelievable, I think he's going to take the NRL by storm "
Nathan Hindmarsh says: "He's got a bit of skill and a bit of footwork and he's got good toe”
So who should I believe? A troll who has yet to post one anti-biased, intelligent comment or two of the best rugby players in the world who have actually played against him? I think I’ll take the latter.
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| Quote ="Paul_J"
10940 says: “He’s a carthorse”
Petero Civoniceva says: "What a weapon, he's unbelievable, I think he's going to take the NRL by storm "
Nathan Hindmarsh says: "He's got a bit of skill and a bit of footwork and he's got good toe”
So who should I believe? A troll who has yet to post one anti-biased, intelligent comment or two of the best rugby players in the world who have actually played against him? I think I’ll take the latter.'"
I understand as much about rugby League as anyone does,and I maintain at the moment Burgess is being over-rated,I have seen,(over the years) many potentional players that didn't turn out as good as they were expected to,..you see in England you have great problems with personel in nearly all your sports,one good performance and you lot start screaming"best since sliced bread, twelve months later on the scrap heap..(Panesar)for instance, Morgan is the next.
The trouble with you mate is,if people dont agree with you they must be a troll,..GET A LIFE.
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| Quote ="Juan Cornetto"Quote ="10940"
Err... Australia RU weren't superior to Scotland last week were they!
Anyway you ought to be good at sports as you have nothing else to do over there but practice. For us sport is something we do in our leisure time, while for you it is a religion and doesn't involve using your brains much. We invented most of the international sports. The best you lot came up with is a cross between a couple of sports we invented. Sorry I forgot you invented sledging didn't you.'" '"
Go back to school child.
I've learned that artificial intelligence is no match for natural stupidity.
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| Quote ="10940"I understand as much about rugby League as anyone does,and I maintain at the moment Burgess is being over-rated,I have seen,(over the years) many potentional players that didn't turn out as good as they were expected to,..you see in England you have great problems with personel in nearly all your sports,one good performance and you lot start screaming"best since sliced bread, twelve months later on the scrap heap..(Panesar)for instance, Morgan is the next.
The trouble with you mate is,if people dont agree with you they must be a troll,..GET A LIFE.'"
You obviously don't understand what a simple equation this is.....I'm not saying Burgess is the best player in the world, I'm not saying he didn't mess up a potential second try. What I am saying is that calling him a CARTHORSE is wrong....nothing else.....a belief that is backed up by two of your international players. Does someone with "skill and a bit of footwork and good toe" sound like attributes that a carthorse would have?
Having looked at some of your posts on here it is clear that you do not know as much as anyone on Rugby League, I've yet to see anything that isn't aimed at agitating the English on here, which is what you seem to spend all your time doing.....therefore maybe you should get a life and try considering making one, decent, rugby-league based comment rather than a hundred stupid The-English-are-rubbish-at-everything ones.
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