I dont think it has anything to do with the amount of Aussies playing in super league. I am affraid we are paying the price for the way our game is played, with the refs allowing an unreal ammount of lying on and 7-10 second play the balls it was always going to end up like this, The Aussies are much quicker in every department including speed of thought. This i feel is due to the speed of their game. Why can the Aussies have a competative league where different teams win every year? Why do the powers the be in our country feel the need to artificially level the playing field by bringing in rules that reward slow and lazy play and reward mediocraty?

Last night showed we are not moving forward, its easy to take positives from last night but the facts remain that when it was 0-0 and still a game we got totally hammered , later when the Aussies dropped their intensity we came back . Does anyone believe we a capable of playing at the level they did last night?

Hold on and dont get ahead of yourself. He has had 1.5 good games for England and many, many poor ones. Therefore based on this I think talk of him getting the captaincy is a little premature, especially considering he is hardly a guaranteed starter. If he plays as well for the next 5 games then maybe then he could be considered.

A couple of thoughts on the centres:

1) Senior has never ever set the world on fire at the international level and if we had had a half decent centre he would have gone years ago. I'm sorry guys but he's nothing more than a bully who's only any good when he's playing for a side on top.

2) Gleeson's defence must have improved massively over the last couple of years, because I've seen him continuely come out of the line and leave his winger exposed at international level.

For me the closest thing we've come to having quality centre over the last few years is Chev Walker, but he went chasing the pound. Good look to Shenton though, wouldn't say he's world class yet. Good start though and hope continues to improve.

id go with the same as against the kiwis

That sideways run in to touch with 5 minutes left was pure genius.