Quote ="Phuzzy"I agree that Senior has been top quality (check my initial post), but to claim he has ever been the best in the world is stretching it to say the least. He has made next to no impact at world level (check the number of offers he has had from the NRL for example) and to say 'Man of Steel' and head and shoulders above any player when he won it Lyon had less impact in that season than Senior in any of his is a ludicrous statement. What's more Lyon wasn't even 'the best in the world' when he achieved all that...merely the best in Super League.'"
Lyon did it for two seasons (and a massively over rated two at that), Senior has done it for 14 years
and Senior did make an impact at world level, beating the aussies and kiwis numerous times
Quote As for Inglis, he made a monkey of Senior only last year and has improved since then! Are you seriously suggesting that because he hasn't yet, in all probability, fulfilled his potential that he isn't already better than Senior has ever been?'"
Senior is 33, and he stood up fine when they played Melbourne,
and no, i dont think Inglis has fulfilled his potential and i dont think he is already better than Senior was 5-7 years ago,
i have no doubt he will fulfill his potential and i have no doubt when he does so he will be better than Senior ever was, i also believe he will likely go on to be the best centre of the past 30 years, however he isnt there yet,
and also, i can guarantee Inglis wasnt the best centre in the world 6 years ago,
Quote Mogg was outstanding at centre in the NRL gaining Queensland SOO representation. If you are judging him on SL form, you are again deluded as he's been playing SO over here and is still more dangerous/influential that Senior.'"
Mogg didnt make his origin debut until he was 29 and only then due to an injury to to Inglis, christ he was only managed to be an NRL regular for a few years and spent a good chunk in the aussie lower tiers,
Quote Connolly was seen as good enough to be signed by the aforementioned NRL clubs as well as being the best British centre over many seasons. Something Senior has failed to do on both counts. Even as recently as last year's World Cup he came out second best to Martin Gleeson who has been more effective throughout most of their careers together. That said, I will accept that this is a subjective opinion.'"
that is certainly a very subjective opinion, but Martin Gleeson better than Senior over the past two years? really? is that really your honest opinion? and that Senior hasnt been the best british centre for a few years? honestly?
Quote As for the likes of Gasnier etc....don't even go there!
Now, all this sounds a little 'anti-Senior'. Far from it. He's been an excellent servant for both Sheffield and Leeds and one of the best British centres for much of his carreer. Just nowhere near "the best in the world". And that's neither subjective nor opinion unless you happen to be from Leeds or deluded about the British game.'"
ok what are your objective criteria for this conclusion, considering it is neither objective nor an opinion
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