Quote ="dally messenger" 2. moving teams when they are surviving is wrong. if they have no other option fine, but when they are doing well enough it alienates fans. should widnes be moved to liverpool for example? or worse, to london?
6. sydney RL clubs on the whole get average crowds and have OK finances (yes the pokie tax is affecting things but it appears to be stabilizing). canberra, warriors and melbourne get less fans than the sydney clubs so should they be kicked out as well.'"
I don't think you're getting my point; I wouldn't be the one proposing moving Widnes to Liverpool or London, because that would presuppose that they would be more successful elsewhere. I also wouldn't be the one to neglect expansion teams like Canberra, NZ and Melbourne - I'm the one proposing that a greater emphasis is placed on non-NSW/QLD teams, including expansion into those areas
Your argument is that QLD needs more teams, and they're guaranteed to be successes there. It's the exact [iopposite[/i situation to moving Widnes to London, where you would have a relatively strong team moving from a strong RL area to one with comparably little support for the game.
Moving a relatively weak club from Sydney to an area like QLD is entirely different, the [iopposite[/i of moving Widnes to London or Liverpool.
Quote 3. canibilization is more when you kill off one team for another. you gain some fans but lose others, probably in the same numbers. if you want genuine expansion then you need more teams.'"
That's not cannibalisation, IMO. Moving Cronulla to Newcastle would be cannibalisation (ignoring that they would be laughed out of town).
It's swapping a struggling club in a saturated area for an entirely new market; I don't think it's the same thing as cannibalisation.
Another QLD team is closer to cannibalisation than what I proposed.
Quote 7. it would if you involve kicking out a sydney team (or moving it) for a perth team. the fans of the sydney team (most) would be lost to RL.'"
Ideally, nobody would have to move. But if it came to the crunch, I'd take the loss of 15k in an enormous market which is already saturated with RL to gain 15k, and therefore a very solid foothold, in an expansion area like Perth.
Quote why should more clubs have to die to give perth another chance? '"
Why did Perth have to die to give other teams a chance? If it's not fair that other teams suffer to get Perth in now, why was it fair for Perth to suffer so they could be in?